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Interview with Dimitris Kazakis leader of EPAM

Germans Have Right to Oppose Migration, Greece Threatened by NATO Takeover. One of the most intelligent and interesting Greek politicians talks on different topics and today`s main geopolitical issues.

17-21 March 2016 gianalytics.org

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One year ago, while in Athens, Greece, I interviewed Mr. Dimitris Kazakis, leader of United Popular Front (EPAM), a popular Left movement that emerged from the anti-memorandum protests of 2011. Mr. Kazakis is an erudite speaker, a socialist economist, and one who knows both the terrain of the social struggle and the high-end banking sector in London where he worked for many years.

At the time, Mr. Kazakis was not very optimistic about Syriza – the Left party governing Greece, if to say the least. He warned that Prime Minister Tsipras has no intention of breaking with austerity and that he will take on a new contract that will enslave the country further. The interview was conducted in February 2015, but it took me months to publish it since I wanted to give Syriza a chance. Mr. Kazakis was right. It happened exactly as he said. One year later, on February 17, 2016, I met Mr. Kazakis at the offices of EPAM in Athens again. Things are much worse in Athens now.

Mr. Kazakis covered almost all issues under the sun. He talked about the migration crisis, why he supports a Brexit, Greece’s economic predicament, the world economy, NATO in the Aegean, Erdogan and Merkel, NGOs dubious roles, nationalism, why cosmopolitanism is dangerous, the Germans, perpetual war, Venezuela and Cuba. Below is the full interview.

You actually predicted what will happen at the time because at the time what you said was that these negotiations are a sham, they are going to sign on another contract and so on. At the time when I wanted to publish the article, many people were warning me not to publish it, not to bring down Syriza, and it turned out that it happened exactly as you said. So that’s why I published it later, but at least, I published it before basically what was a betrayal of a promise.

I can understand that because when I went to a conference in Nice, in November, they asked me to explain what happened to Greece, what happened to the Left party, or to the Left government of Syriza. And I told them what exactly happened from day one. Right after the elections of the 25th of January, back in 2015. Everyone was astonished. There were French, Spanish, Italians, Germans. Everybody. And of course, afterwards, everybody came to me and told me that we are very very sorry. We were totally wrong in our estimation about Syriza the Left government.

The problem is that by then it was too late…

Yeah, exactly. Too late for us, especially. And for Europe. Because the system invested in the Syriza government, to show everybody, every European person, that no one can do anything with the whole system, the system of the European regime, of the banks, of the Euro. And in that way, they were trying to disappoint the society. Especially Greece and, of course, all over Europe.  No one could understand what happened here in Greece. How the anti-memorandum coalition of Syriza and Kammenos [the Independent Greeks –ANEL] can do such things as sign a third memorandum against the people and produce such a politically incorrect situation here in Greece.

This brings me to a related question which I think is relevant. In Britain, the UK, the place where you lived in the past and also worked, there will be a vote on Britain leaving the European Union. So, if I may ask, do you support Britain leaving the European Union?

Yeah, of course.

And does that mean you would also support UKIP and the Eurosceptical people?

As EPAM, we have relations with the umbrella of the movements against the European Union in Britain. And I was asked by British colleagues, fighters against the EU, to go there on a speech tour. I don’t know if I can do that because of the political situation here in Greece…

Schengen, because of the everyday situation?

Exactly. And now we have a social – we are in the process of a social resurrection of the Greek society, so we have a lot to do in Greece. I don’t know if we have the spare time to go over in Britain on a speech tour. But, anyway, we support any movement that is against the European Union in terms of democracy. We are fighting for democracy. And in order to fight for democracy you have to fight for national sovereignty. That’s the basis of democracy. You cannot have democracy without national sovereignty of any people. British people, Greek people, the German people. And that’s the only way. So, yes. We support the NO campaign against the European Union. And we have discussed with certain members of the UKIP.

Of course we are on a different page in terms of social and economic policy. But that’s our difference. But we support them for Britain to leave the European Union. And they have to leave. Because otherwise they will face one way or the other the same sort of situation that we are facing.

How so? If you can elaborate on that a little bit….

You cannot have a European Union, you cannot participate in a union and have mainly the banks, patrons, and of course the banking elite, or the financial elite – the engine of the financial elite – as first and foremost against the people, and against the interests of the people, and on the same page have social security, or social insurance or a social security state, or provide for the unemployed and the poverty-stricken population. You cannot have social labor and democratic rights in a state that is participating in the European Union. Because the European Union was built from day one to support the financial elites’ interests. That’s why we believe that Britain has to go. It has to leave the European Union.  It will make our struggle much easier. Because if Britain decides to get rid of the European Union, it will be much easier for us, to convince the Greeks that you don’t have to be afraid of anything. You see, bigger countries, huge economies, like the British, are leaving EU. So why not you? Simple.

As you told me one year ago, that basically the EU-led austerity – “made us less than human.” This is a general question. What is the current situation with pensions, social security, farmers? What is the economic situation in Greece at the moment since the past year?

I’ll give you official data: Now, if we take the middle family income, the average family budget. The income of this middle family budget is calculated according to the official data of 2014, because we don’t have any new data. We’re talking about 18,000 Euro per year. Ok?  Back in 2010, it was 23,000. Now, we are at 18,000. Of course, you have enough money to buy the things you need, the consumer products, the things you need to support the family. To provide your family’s basic needs, you need 47,000 Euro. And you have an income of 18,000.

Is that all? No. You also have to pay for the bank loans another 2,500 per year. You have to pay extra taxes on your income. That’s another 3,700 per year. You also have to pay social insurance fees. That’s another 3,500 per year. If you put all this down, you’ll see that on an income basis of 18,000 per year, the obligations of the middle family, are up to 36,000-37,000 per year. Give me a situation similar to this and provide me with an alternative… There is no way you can get rid of that economic circumstances. You cannot even imagine how you can get rid of the depression we have here in Greece, and of course, how will the economy turn around. There is no way. There is just no way. We need more than double of the income for the middle family to keep up with the obligations. There is no way you can have that because we have to withstand austerity, we have the memorandums. Now in 2016, they say they need more than 2 to 4 billion more taxes out of the family budget, and this will destroy the basis of the social insurance system in order for the beneficiary to pay more fees and get less in pensions, in social security support.

What is the situation of homelessness at the moment?

We have a problem of homelessness, but right now because of the dispersion of the homes, in Greece, more than 75% of the population owns the apartments or the houses that they live in, so there is no huge problem. Of course, most of the families now own the houses of the apartments, but they were taken through loans from the banks, so the banks now are trying to confiscate the private property from them, but they didn’t dare, up till now, to do what they did in Spain or in the US.

Of course, they have the laws now. When we talked one year ago, they didn’t have the law, but now the banks do have the law on their side. The Left government provided the bankers with the legal status of what they have for foreclosures and confiscation, the same type of legal status they have in the US. This is the product of the Left government, not of the rightist or the Left government we had back then. The current Left government provides the legal tool for the banksters for foreclosures and to confiscate private property. It was out of the question, if we go back two or three years.

The Syriza government has been waiting for this issue of enacting foreclosures. And at some point, they will be forced to take action probably.

Yes, they will try. And they even voted for a law that allows the banks to sell overdue loans for the funds we call vultures. And right now one bank, one systemic bank, the Alpha bank, sold a package of overdue loans to a private fund for 3% of the nominal value. 3%. Right now in Greece we have 100 billion of overdue loans. Now, the bankers will sell these 100 billion overdue loans to vulture funds. For how much? For 3-5 billion. And I proposed to the government a simple solution: give the bankers the 3-5 billion, take the 100 billion nominal value of overdue loans and destroy them.

But they are not doing that…

No… not even to help the citizens who cannot pay for the labor men. They cannot provide because they don’t have jobs, they don’t have income. So, we pay the recapitalization of the banking system more than 60 billion Euros as taxpayers.  60 billion. And now Mr. Draghi wants the Greek taxpayer to pay another 14 billion Euros for the recapitalization of the bank system in Greece. Why don’t they give to the bankers at least 3 to 5 billion – that’s nothing, compared to what we gave already to the banks and what they are asking for – and take the bloody overdue loans and get rid of them. Leave the people alone.

But they aren’t doing it…

No. This government doesn’t do it.

I think it’s not even possible for the Government to take unilateral actions without the approval of the Troika…

Exactly. Because that’s the new matter about the Third Memorandum. We have a new memorandum, the third section of it. If you go back to the law that was passed by the Greek parliament on the 14 of August 2015, you will see in the third section of the memorandum that the government cannot do anything without the approval of the IMF or the European Commission and the European Central Bank. We are under an occupation regime. We are less than a colony. And we cannot provide even for the borders, to guard the borders of Greece. No. We do not even have a right to say a word about this thing. That is why we are less than a state, in international law terms.

This brings me to the question of the migration crisis which is facing Europe now. Obviously Greece has already so many big economic problems; now it also has to deal with Hotspots which are being imposed by the European Union, besides the fact that NATO decided to patrol in the Aegean supposedly to stop the coming of the migrants. This brings me to ask what do you think Greece should do about it if it could.

The first thing Greece has to do is to get rid of the Schengen Treaty and the Dublin Treaty in order to provide for the migrants and of course for the refugees coming from Syria. More than 60% of those coming from Syria, up to now, are refugees coming from the war. The first thing you have to do is to follow international law. And if you cannot afford to deal with the whole situation, if you have more than 1 million, a half a million refugees and migrants, call the United Nations agency to come in and provide financial help, provide for the infrastructure you need to provide for the refugees and migrants.

The first thing that you have to do is to get rid of the Dublin and the Schengen treaties, in order to follow international law. Let me give you an example: the same situation happened in Lebanon. Right now Lebanon is providing for more than 1,250,000 refugees. We’re talking about 25% of the Lebanon population. Who is talking about Lebanon? Nobody. Because Lebanon follows international law.

How so?

Since it is not a member of the European Union, Lebanon does not want to create a slave labor out of the refugees, and what they are doing is what international law provides in a similar situation. Draghi does not want that. The European Union also does not want that. They want to take the refugees and of course the migrants and provide their own labor markets with slave labor. And that’s the whole situation…

Let’s look at the things logically. The refugee coming from Syria or Iraq is going through the trouble. The first thing a law abiding state has to do is to provide him with all the papers the refugee needs, all the papers that say who a refugee is and who he is not.

Draghi does not do that. They subsidize the whole industry of providing slave labor to the EU through Greece. And of course, Greece as a state has to go to international bodies, like the International Maritime Organization and say: “look at Turkey, what are they doing? They are creating a situation in the Aegean. You have to take measures against that.”

Turkey is a member of the International Maritime Organization. The International Maritime Organization can decide that “we have a situation – a crisis – that is created by a member state, and we have to do something about it.” Now, Greece does not do that because it’s a member of the European Union. And the European Union decides what will happen to the Greek islands. And Greece is only a member of the whole thing. It is only to abide by the decisions made by Mr. Tusk, Mr. Juncker and Mr. Erdogan. That’s what we have right now. If we decide to provide the refugees the same type of asylum and infrastructure Lebanon provides it would be not a problem. Because you would give the refugee the same kind of international treatment as the international law provides and let him go wherever he likes. He wants to go to Germany –  he may go to Germany.

And, we even could say that “Ok, we have refugees. From where? Syria. Who destroyed Syria? The United States. Ok, the United States must take 80% or 90% or 100% of the refugees from Syria.” You cannot destroy through war – a whole country – and then say “Oh, I have nothing to do with the refugee situation from that country.”

The same thing with Afghanistan and with Iraq. That’s the international law. If you remember back in Vietnam days when the southern Vietnam collapsed, what did the US do? They took more than a million Vietnamese refugees, I don’t remember for whatever reason, they took the Vietnamese refugees because they were involved in the Vietnam war. Now, what is going on in Syria? The same thing.

And I believe that the first countries that have to deal with the refugee problem are the United States and Russia. Because they are fighting on Syrian soil. And on top of that we need the Greek government, if we have a democratic government of course, to say, Ok, first and foremost, in order to deal with the refugee program, we need to stop the war in Syria. And of course, not only to stop the war, like they are doing right now, but establish law and order in Syria. And give back the situation to the lawful government – the Assad regime. Ok, I don’t believe in the Assad regime. But that’s the lawful government. And who is Mr. Obama or Mr. Putin or whoever to decide how many parts will be dissected, that Syria must be dissected, and for what reason…

Give back the national sovereignty to Syria. Take out the foreign armies and the mercenaries, everybody. And of course then you will see all the refugees, or most of the refugees, coming back to Syria.  And let us provide investment infrastructure to Syria in order to rebuild Syria because they demolished the whole country. That’s how you deal with the refugee problem.

So I’m just trying to understand. This is a simple question. So the difference between Lebanon and Greece is that in the case of Lebanon, refugees are free to go elsewhere and in the case of Greece, the European Union…

They don’t have Hotspots. Of course, they do have infrastructure to provide for the refugees, with the help of the UN. But they are trying to deal with the problem in terms of the international law. With what international law provides for the refugee. A refugee is a sacred person. He’s escaping war or a regime. So you have to deal with him as a sacred person, to provide for him, and, of course, to give him the opportunity to go back to the country. He didn’t leave on his free will; he  escaped from a situation. It’s not an opportunity for Germany or for France or for Poland or for the EU to have 2 million slave labor for their own labor market in order to bring down the wages and destroy the social infrastructure of the country so that the labor or the working class cannot fight against their own government or the European elite. A refugee is a sacred person. And you need to provide for him. And of course, do whatever you can, to stop the situation or to alter the situation that the refugee is escaping from. That’s our opinion.

How do you think the mechanism of the Hotspots will work in terms of slave labor?

It’s simple.In Greece, we already have a law passed back in 2012 that provides the ability for the government to take from the Hotspots whoever it is, either he’s an outlaw migrant or a refugee, and to provide labor supply in terms of whatever the government decides. For example, now we have a big situation with the farmers all over Greece. The government proposes to the farmers to give them free – without any charge – free slave labor from the Hotspots, and the government will subsidize the farmers for the slave labor of the migrants and the refugees working for them. That’s a way to buy out; it ‘s a way to buy the social consciousness of the farmers.

So why is the government subsidizing it, because it ends up being much cheaper?

Yes, of course. You’ll have cheap labor for yourself, and on top of that you’ll have all the income coming from the government, that normally will go for the refugees and the migrants – for the Hotspots – you’ll get the revenue as a farmer. And you’ll be provided with more income out of the slave labor you are using for every migrant or refugee you are occupying. It’s policy. It’s a policy proposition from the Greek government, the Left government for the farmers to keep them quiet and not to revolt against the memorandum policies. “I’ll provide for you slave labor, don’t worry. Go back to your farms.” That’s what the Left government is saying right now to the farmers.

But obviously for Greece to treat the refugees according to international law it would mean to leave the European Union first, but that’s impossible…

Yes. Because you have to get rid of Schengen Treaty and Dublin Treaty. The Dublin Treaty created a special situation in dealing with refugees and migrants for the EU. It created an international situation, because back then when they provided refugees with international law, back in the protocols in the 1950s, they thought of the refugee and the migrant situation as an international problem, not a European problem. An international problem. Now, the EU wanted to refurbish the whole situation as a European problem, which it isn’t.

That’s why they created the Dublin I and Dublin II treaties. For members of the EU to decide themselves what to do with refugees and migrants. Not according to international laws and protocols. No. But through their own private interests. That’s the privatization of an international problem.

Recently, as you obviously know, terrorists were found in Greece, trying to pass through. And what is very strange is how a caravan filled with AK47s and bullets managed to make its way, all the way, I think it was from Western Europe – Germany and Austria, all the way to Greece. Do you think there are flaws in the way the EU is managing its security?

Yeah, it’s a huge industry. And the banking system that supports this, the banking logistics – is based on the Greek bankers and the Cyprus banks. That’s why they are specially protected. No attorney, no justice system, can penetrate the banking system, and no one can say let’s see what is going on, who’s laundering money.  Through what channels they are taking rights, or are there payoffs, things like that. We know that the Greek banking system and the Cypriot banking system, the systemic bank, they are first and foremost launderers of black money, coming from weapons, prostitution, and of course, migrants and refugees.

So the banks are complicit, in let’s call it, intentional lack of monitoring its security, allowing smuggling?

Exactly. That’s why they keep refinancing bankrupt institutions. Like the four systemic banks here in Greece that are bankrupt since 2009. And we know that. But they keep them afloat, although they are utterly bankrupt. We are under capital controls, as you know, from June 2015. Actually, we are under a banking moratorium.  You cannot do free banking, or if you go to a bank and take the money out of your private account, you cannot do that here in Greece – since 27th of June if I remember correctly. They closed the banks from that point and on and they didn’t open them. And they are not going to open up the banks, only until they do a haircut to whatever they can to accounts, to whatever. So, they are totally bankrupt.

They are under – we are under – a banking moratorium or capital control as the Europeans call it, and on top of that we have to refinance and recapitalize the closed-down banks. That’s… as an economist I can say, that’s  a historical phenomenon. You cannot do that. There is no other historical precedent… None. You cannot have a closed down banking system and refinance… Why do they do that? Because it’s the logistical basis of this huge laundering business. … for all Europeans. I’m talking about the cash flow coming from this, through Turkey, to the European banks.

The cash flow?

I’m talking about armaments, prostitution, and the commerce of human beings – refugees and migrants.

So I’ll just simplify so that people will understand. What you are saying is that there is the network of smuggling of prostitutions, of weapons, and also of drugs?

Yes.

Of drugs also, it goes to Turkish banks, and from Turkish banks it gets laundered again…to the European Union.

Through Greece. They are going to the huge banks, Deutsche Bank and others banks in the Europe.

So they carry the money on their bodies?

Yes.  They want a free market for this kind of business. And we are a free market for this kind of business. Because Mr. Tusk, Mr. Juncker and Mr. Erdogan decide what is going to happen. For example, I’ll give you an example you probably don’t know. What Mr. Erdogan said to Mr. Tusk and to Mr. Jucnker back in November. Probably it was Russian intelligence that took the conversation and gave it to the Greek newspaper. Probably Russian intelligence, I don’t know. But the newspaper printed a week ago a conversation between Mr. Tusk and Mr. Juncker with Mr. Erdogan, discussing the situation with the Greek islands, the refugee and the migrant problem. And Mr. Erodgan asked not 3 billion but 9 billion. And when Mr. Juncker said to him, “I cannot provide such funds for Turkey,” Mr. Erdogan said, “you saw the drowned body of the 4-year-old in the Greek island”? – “Yes.”  “How about sending you 14,000 such bodies to Greek islands?” – That’s what Mr. Erdogan said to Mr. Juncker and Mr.Tusk.  And when Mr. Juncker said: “What do you want?  Are we dealing with like you are a prince”? And Mr. Erdogan said: “Yes, I am a Prince. I’m an Ottoman Prince.”

So, you see, we are under a political mafia. And no one, even in Turkey or in the EU, can deal with this Mafiosi because we don’t have democracy or even parliamentarism to provide the people with a voice, or to have some people who will deal with it. They negotiate in the dark rooms. What the people could say a few decades ago – it is something like Nazism. That’s why we say that we are facing not the European Union but a new European Reich. Full fledged.

So what does Erdogan do with the money he gets?

Mr. Erdogan wants to provide new funds to the industry we are talking about in Turkey. It’s official policy. And you can have illegal planning: take 100 refugees with your boat or whatever it is and bring them to the Greek islands. So you have the NGOs on the Greek islands. In my opinion, most of the NGOs working on the Greek islands are working for smugglers. Smuggling people.

Let me give you an example: more than 10,000 children coming out of the sea and identified by NGOs – “saved” by NGOs – they were lost afterwards. No trace. No trace at all. While going to the EU. About 10,000 children. Who is responsible for this? We’re talking about a massacre. Because, the children up to 14, 15 years old, are going to the European Union, for what? For prostitution and of course for illegal forms of human organs. 10,000 children. And that’s the situation the EU created in our armed forces with the support of our own government.

What do you think can be done about the fact that a lot of Greek people are simply apathetic and they don’t see the connection between the Euro and their own economic situation. The longer they wait, the worse it’s going to get. Because there are growing chances, the war in Syria is going to get much worse. If that happens, Greece, as a member of NATO will get involved in the war in Syria.

I know. And we are very very fearful right now about the rise of that possibility. Because NATO is in the Aegean not for the refugees or the migrants. They are here to confront Russia. Ok?

Russian forces in Syria?

Yes. We’re talking about a huge naval force from Russia coming from Crimea and the Baltics and for the first time after the 19th century the Aegean is closed off. They cannot get safe passage to Crimea. You can see what is going on?

But how will boats manage to block Russian forces?

Because the Aegean is now out of reach for the Greek government and nominally for the Turkish government. Who is going through the Aegean is up to NATO to decide, who is to have safe passage. NATO decides. Not Greece, not Turkey, not even international law. You can say that according to international law I can have safe passage… No! Because NATO is doing surveillance all over the Aegean and NATO decides who is going to pass. Because let’s say the Russian warships are working for refugees or for migrants, whatever. They can say whatever they like. Who is going to say otherwise? – Russia. Oh, so what. That’s what happened here in Greece.

Of course, we lost our sovereignty, and on top, we’re totally involved in the war creation process of NATO against Russia. And of course, that’s why the Russians, Mr. Putin, agreed on a set-back in Syria. Agreed on a ceasefire in Syria that provides for the mercenaries. Because the mercenaries were to use the ceasefire situation to refurbish their forces with new material and of course ammunition and, of course, men, coming especially from Turkey.

Then the talks in Geneva collapsed and then NATO decided to go to the Aegean…

Yeah, exactly.

The talks collapsed pretty much with the support of the US…

And now, Mr. John Kerry, can go to Lavrov and say to him: “Ok, you have two possible situations. Either your fleet is cut off from Crimea, and we’re talking about a huge fleet that’s with cruise missiles, the major ships of the Russian Crimea fleet. Either you lose your fleet, or we decide together to get rid the Assad Regime.”

And that’s right now what is happening. Of course, Russia tries to manipulate or whatever but what is happening right now in Syria is exactly that. Even with the declarations of Mr. Steinmeyer two days ago. What Mr. Steinmeyer, the secretary of the foreign policy of the German government said was that the only thing we need right now, is that Tehran and Moscow will persuade Mr. Assad lay down his arms. That’s the whole plan. To dissect Syria, into 3 or 4 zones. Similar to what they did in Tunisia, or Libya, or Iraq. Same situation. And after Syria, they will go on. They will go to Jordan, they will go to Iran, they will go to Turkey itself. And they will dissect again and again the whole Middle East region. And of course, us too… But we are easy to be dissected.

This leads me to a different question:  The European elites must be aware of the social unrest here, so; how do you think they plan to continue?

I believe that by the end of 2017 – this is my own conclusion – we will not have Greek forces involved either in national defense or security. Inner security will be provided from NATO. Even the army of Greece will be demolished and only a few units will remain, just like in Bulgaria or Albania. And they are going to be totally submitted to NATO.

And right now, we have on the northern borders of Greece, Academi and Group 4 forces, provided with Frontex budgets, right now.

Where exactly?

Sérres and Komotini. Greece and Macedonia – Greek Macedonia. And everybody knows that. The Greek army knows, the Greek police knows that. But it was decided by the Europeans.

But what are their purposes for being there exactly?

Officially to provide security service guarding the northern borders of Greece because Greece cannot provide such level of security. Let me give you an example of the whole situation, of how dire it is.

In the third memorandum, you will see that we have to provide less and less for our national defense. The state budget of 2016 provides 200 million, not billion, 200 million to the federal defense budget. In the 2015 budget, the national defense budget was 500 million. In one year’s time, the Europeans decided that the national budget must go down by 300 million. With only 200 million Euros, you cannot even pay the wages of the military personnel you employ as a state. On the budget of 2017, the memorandum says that the national budget will have to go down even further.

So in the future, we will see a situation whereamidst social unrest, Greeks will find themselves confronted by mercenaries, Academi?

Exactly. When you will have such a situation in Greece, I can guarantee you, the Greek people will take arms. It was done back in the 20th century a lot of times and it will be done again. Of course, we don’t want that, to go down that road. But we will travel this road, if we cannot do otherwise. We will fight for our country. Our forefathers fought for our country. We will fight even with arms, if we are against foreign troops, mercenaries or whomever. We will fight.

Of course I believe that in 2016 there will be a social resurrection here in Greece, one way or the other. I don’t know which way the social unrest will go. But we will have social unrest. If you walk on the streets Greece you will see a lot of people now, saying: “Ok, the situation is over our heads. I cannot afford any longer to stay silent. I have to do something.”

Ok, we have the farmers. We have the lawyers. We have the medical workers. All over Greece, the social rage is climbing. We will have a social unrest… and we will try, through EPAM of course, to make it a participation, to pave social unrest and to create a situation that can end up in a social revolution. Because the only way we can get rid of the whole regime is through a social and political revolution.

When we are talking about creating a social revolution we are not talking about – in the same way – like we’re expecting an attack on the Winter Palace like the Russians did back in 1917. No. We are talking about the organization of a huge part – a major part of the Greek population in my opinion – that will demand the demolition of the whole regime.

We will see that. And I believe that we will see that in 2016. I don’t believe that it will be before August. After we see the weather in Greece opening up, you will  see that most of the major movements, the social movements here in Greece, they are coming out like when Spring is coming. When we have spring in terms of the weather, it’s the same thing with society. Something like a natural biological process in society. You have a spring in society. And you will have that in 2016.

Otherwise, I don’t know what we will face in 2017 and in 2018. Probably, we will have to fight through other means.

By the way, speaking of Iran, I read a report on this on one website that Albania received about 2,000 fighters of an Iranian opposition group.

Yeah, that’s true.

But why?

Well, let me give you a scenario. I don’t know if it will come out… but it’s a kind of scenario that happens in Greece especially on a military level, and of course, with the security forces.

They are expecting some kind of a UÇK situation on Macedonia or even closer to the Albanian border. A UÇK situation is like a thousand, two thousand mercenaries, coming and creating a situation. Like the UÇK did in Serbia, in Kosovo.

The KLA?

Yes, the KLA [Kosovo Liberation Army]. We call them the UÇK. Mercenaries. NATO mercenaries. It’s very easy nowadays. We don’t have the means to guard the borders of our country. By 2017, we will have foreigners guarding our borders. Especially mercenaries, Academi and Group 4. British multinationals and American multinationals – the corporation created out of Blackwater. They already have an agreement with the Frontex organization to provide security services.

So, it’s quite easy. Who is going to stop them? Nobody. Except of course the Greek people. And they have in their minds the same situation. They will create a monstrous regiment, leading the section of Macedonia, the mercenaries will probably invade, and come down to Athens. And when the Greek citizen sees refugees, Greek refugees, coming… they will be frightened so much, they will accept anything. That’s the NATO scenario.

Of course, our history is quite different. If the Greek sees a Greek citizen coming as a refugee from a foreign invasion, you will see what will happen. You will see the same thing that happened back in 1940.  Barefoot, they went up to the Albanian mountains fighting against the Italian fascists. No guns. No political leadership. With the military dictatorship and fascist dictatorship here in Greece. And the Greek people went up there without even stopping. Because back then we had more casualties from the winter than from the Italian fascists. Because our forefathers had nothing. And they fought back then. Nobody believed back then…

Even Ciano who designed the Italian offensive in Greece said back then when a British diplomat asked him, “How sure you can be that through your offensive Greece will collapse in a few days”? And Ciano said, “We bribe the whole regime, the Metaxas regime.” It was a fascist regime. And what happened? Every Greek, even my grandfather, who walked with a limp, he was one leg short from birth, he went on foot from Kalamata to the Albanian border. We are talking about more than 1,000 KM. On foot. Without even a gun. He took a gun from a dead Italian fascist and fought down to the end. You will see the same thing happen again. They don’t know the Greek people.

Of course, it’s easy to say that if you take the Greek and close him in a dark room for days and then tell him “You know, don’t open the door because the light will blind you.” Well, probably most of the Greeks will decide not to open up the door. But when you squeeze him against the wall, he will decide, either to be a traitor or a hero. And most of them will decide to become heroes.

It’s easier for Greek, even if you see the history, to give up his life, rather than to give up his watches or his wallet or whatever. It’s easier for him, to decide to give up the life.

Why would NATO want to do such a thing? To prevent a social rest?

No, no. It wants to create a corridor in the Balkans.

NATO does?

Yeah. A corridor coming through Turkey, Greece, Macedonia, and Albania. It’s a buffer zone to control the whole Balkans.

And then NATO will come in to restore order…

Exactly. And through that you’ll have gas pipes, or installations, whatever. It’s only for foreign forces to control the whole Balkans. And of course, through the Balkans you control Central Europe. You control Russia. If you’ll go back you’ll see the same thing as the Truman Doctrine in the new situation. What we had back then – the Truman Doctrine that took us into a civil war in Greece – it’s the same thing.

They will create this buffer zone, they will reduce Southern Greece, in order to provide for an installation of Israeli forces and NATO forces, in order to have a lever, a foothold for Israeli defense. Because they want Israel to be like it is right now. It’s a constable for the US imperialism in the Middle East. They need it. By destroying the whole Middle East you need to provide Israel with a backbone of defense – a buffer.

Let’s go back to 1967, when Israel started the Six Day War against Egypt. The US asked the military junta we had back then – created by NATO here in Greece, – to provide Crete for military installations for the Israeli air force against Egypt. Back then even the military junta thought of the political reactions here in Greece and they didn’t accept. Right now, the Left government signed an SOFA , a treaty, with Israel. And now Israel is creating a military airport, in Kastelli in Crete, and bigger military installation of radars in Crete. They are creating installations all over Crete. Crete is another, you know, unsinkable airbase, it’s like a…

An aircraft carrier.

An unsinkable aircraft carrier for NATO. And the Left government signed all of this, for NATO and Israel. We are the only state, besides the United States, to have SOFA treaty with Israel. Nobody else, nobody else. Only us and the United States.

That’s why NATO and US allies like Israel need it: from Larissa downwards to south of Greece, for military and geostrategic purposes. From Larissa upwards – that’s Macedonian Greece – it’s going to become a buffer zone to control the whole Balkan situation.

But that’s obviously not a long-term solution for them. It just means perpetual war and conflict.

Exactly. We have a perpetual war on the financial market. So as long as we have that kind of functional situation of the world economy, we have perpetual war. 100%.

And in my opinion, we have a third world war. It started in 2014. Why? Because it was the first year that 11% of the world population was involved in military action or worse. The first time since the Second World War. And from that point and on, you will see every year, 2015, 2016, more people coming in… That’s world war. And we will probably the surpass the second world war.

But on a different plan, we will have perpetual war all over the place. With Rogue states, civil wars, demolition wars, the destruction of nations and states, things like that. That’s the new form of the world war.

And that is inevitable because of the financial support of the major world powers.

They need states, nations and people to be liquid as capital.

Maybe you can talk about that a little bit…

It’s easy. If I am Mr. Buffet, I know we are not talking about Buffet but a financial elite… in order to create new situation of more profit for my own investment capital, I cannot deal with different states. And I have more then, nominally, we have more than 327 trillion dollars in terms of investment capital worldwide. Controlled by 40 banks… even less. 40 banks. 327 trillion… We have a GDP, a world GDP, from 75 to 77 trillion dollars. And they are only for investment. We’re not talking about derivatives or other aspects of the financial market. We’re talking about 327 trillion dollars. So in order to create opportunities for my capital to provide new, or even more profit, for my portal, we have to destroy and re-destroy the whole… I cannot provide more out of the normal economic cycle. We have to destroy and recreate the cycle itself. And there’s no way I can do that if we have normal states or people or national economies, things like that. We tried that through financial means. We saw that. And we saw how the whole market was destroyed back in 2007 up to 2008. After that, they recreated the whole market and right now they have even a worse situation then back in 2007. So, in order to subsist that kind of a situation in the financial market, we need an army, we need political means – the economy cannot provide any more. You will see that the big international corporations are avoiding from investing. They keep the money on the coffers, and they are using it re-buying equities in the financial market. Things like that. They cannot…

They buy what?

Equities, their own equities. You will see the world commerce going down. So the normal world economy cannot afford to go up on the same level as the financial market. And the difference between the level of the real economy and of the fictitious economy is even bigger than that. What covers the difference is the political means. Creating opportunities for the fictitious capital. That’s the only way. There’s no other way.

That’s why when the equities market went down back in 2014, the US decided that “Ok, forget all about lowering the defense budget. No. Forget all about it. Give more bills to the defense budget.” From 2014, you have the advancement of the defense budget in the US. The same in all over neighboring countries. You will see, new wars erupting all over the planet.

How will they happen in NATO countries? The migrants or…

All over. Germany, went from 4 to 5 billion – if I remember the data correctly from the first budget – right now on 2015, do you know how much was the defense budget of the Federal Republic of Germany?  162 billion euros. That’s huge. And for what? To re-create a world-class army. That’s why the US wanted to give the leadership of the maritime mission of the NATO mission in the Aegean to Germany. It’s the first time after World War II, after the Bonn Treaty of 1951, for the Germans to only participate but to take leadership of a military mission. It’s the first time. And of course, Germany is a world class economy. And they want to keep that kind of status in the world economy. They tried a military partnership with Russia back in 2010. But, of course, the US destroyed that. They tried, through the EU, to create the so-called European Army, the European military force. But it was destroyed by NATO. And now, they are going through NATO military force with the agreement of the US.

That’s why they decided about the Aegean, 4 days after the General Secretary of NATO said it is Ok for the US to quadruple the military installations and military personnel in Europe. Ok? That’s a huge change in the US policy of NATO. And of course, “to defend Europe against Russian aggression.” All these political changes and developments you will see on the background of the situation in the financial markets. And what we have now is that even the BRICS economies cannot provide for the world economy. After 2008, we had the collapse of the Lehman Brothers, the world economy, even the US and, of course, the banks, the economies of capitalism and imperialism, and they had a way out. Through BRICS they invested a lot… and now the BRICS are coming down, especially in China or even in India, Brazil, even in Russia they have big problems. Of course, they cannot do anything. China cannot do anything. Because these are totally dependent on a world scale demand. If you don’t have a world demand for your own economy to grow 8% every year or 10% every year, then you have to recreate your own economy on a basis of a local market. But in doing that, you have to provide your own citizens with more income. More labor rights. And more protection for social situations. Can China, the Chinese Communist Party or the Chinese Government do such a turn? No, I don’t believe that they can do it. Because it would be a fortune for the Chinese to get out of the economic model they had from the 1980s. They cannot do such a social political turn for their own economy. They will destroy the whole system, the political system in China. And if you do that, you will have a Chinese working class demanding more and more and more. And the capitalist world economy would lose the Chinese wage. So, the only way for the world system to go ahead is only through war. There is no other way. They cannot invest anymore. Only in a total destruction. Perpetual war.

But, obviously, that’s not a long-term solution. So we’re just going to see more and more wars throughout the EU?

Exactly. Or up to the point where you will have people’s revolutions – people who want to take back their own country and rebuild it. And in order to rebuild it they have to get rid of all the connections they have with the financial markets, the loan sharks, investment banks, or whatever. That’s the only solution. The alternative.

But any country which would do a revolution, of some kind of gain, any country which would reclaim its sovereignty… would find itself under attack, will find itself under debt, so…

Well, yes. But it’s difficult to find who will fight against sovereignty. It’s difficult for NATO or whomever to create a war situation against Greece because you don’t go up against people that are united and decisive enough to fight for their own country. That’s why they didn’t go against Iran. You will see them trying to use the difference between the government and the people, like they did in Syria. You have the regime, the Assad regime, which is not – you know – “people friendly” let’s say, and create a situation where you can demolish the social cohesion of the whole country. So if you have a social revolution or a popular revolution in Greece and the people are decisive enough to fight for the country, no NATO, no noone can go up against such a people. Or of course we will face an economic war. So what? We don’t want to be part of the financial market. We are not going out on the financial market for loans. We can do without loans.  We are not in need of them. Greece is a small economy.

… Greece can be self-sustaining in terms of producing its own food.

Exactly. It’s easy. It’s easy for us to find the oil we need for our economy. Or the industrial profits, or the industrial technology we need. If we want to rebuild our own industries of textiles, we’ll go to Bangladesh, we won’t go to the US. In Bangladesh we can find whatever we like, in industrial technology, in the textile industry. And we will rebuild it.

But I’m not sure how… if you already made the case that NATO and the financial system, at the current crisis that we’re in, how it profits from and encourages and is causing more and more wars. By that same logic then, if we follow that logic, any place that would have a revolution, NATO would attack that place…

Yeah. They will try…

Maybe the people will fight back, as in the case if they would have invaded Iran. But they would still try…

They will try. They will try by going from the backdoor, you know. Not through the front door. Because by going from the front door you risk a revolution in your own country. And they don’t want that. They want to be legitimized in the people’s eyes, even in their own country. The people would have to say that the Greeks are wrong, and NATO is right. For what? Because the Greeks asked for the country back? And because they said no loans, no nothing, we don’t need anything from you?

“We’re going to work our country and prosper. That’s the only thing we are asking for… And of course, we want democracy.”

They need some kind of an excuse. They cannot go and destroy… For example, in Libya, they had the excuse of Gaddafi. In Syria, Assad. In Iraq, Saddam Hussein. In Iran, the Mullahs. In Greece, what? They are leaving the EU? They want to rebuild their own country with their own abilities? And to rely on whatever their own country can provide?  It’s quite difficult. Of course, they can say whatever they like. But if we do a good job, if we provide for the people, which is what we are saying. If we create a new kind of a situation, a real democratic situation – not, you know, a sign of democracy – but a real democracy, it’s very very difficult, even for the CIA, to create a situation like this. Even to create a situation  we see in Venezuela. They forgot that a revolution everywhere in the world, if you want a revolution, you have to trust the people, not the regime, whatever good it is, not the party, no. The people. The grassroots. And if you forget that, you will pay for that. And that’s what happened back in the Chavez era in Venezuela. Now they are paying for that. Create a grassroots democracy. Take to the people your own things.  Give the people the ability to decide…

How are they paying for it in Venezuela?

Because they create a democratic regime, Ok. But they have an election system that provides for someone who takes 44% of the electorate to have 65% in the national assembly. Why? Of course, the Chavistas say this is all work of the reactionary forces. Ok. And now they are facing their own medicine. That’s why I’m talking about going to the people, giving them the ability to decide themselves. Through communes, through councils, through whatever you can find. Let the people’s imagination decide.

Since I was there and studied a little bit my impression of Venezuela is that… their mistake was that they didn’t follow the Cuban way. I’ll tell you what I mean. Basically, first of all, Maduro wasn’t strong enough about crime, there’s a lot of hoarding done by poor people…

Exactly.

And secondly, when you have elections every four years, and you have a socialist government running, you create a situation where you have populism. You just give free goods to the people and you don’t try to do anything that would be painful, like cracking down on crime. And then at some point, the more populist you become, the more they get tired of you, and then they throw you away.

The opposition had two major weapons against Maduro: inflation and crime. What can you do? First of all, socialize the money circulation process. They did not do that.

How do you do that?

You take the banks and destroy the private banking system. Destroy it. Through their own means, through money. Give money to the people, in terms of income or in terms of jobs.

They didn’t do that…

No. They let the private banking system create money through debt. That’s totally destructive. Even nowadays the Venezuelan government is indebted to Goldman Sachs. Are you crazy? What are you doing? And the other situation is exactly the corruption and the crime problems.

The crime situation: You can deal with it in two separate ways. One is the security forces problem. And they had the security forces problem. That’s why we had in 2002 and 2004 a situation of a coup d’état, through the security forces in Venezuela. So they didn’t solve that. They did a, you know, tried to solve it through the personality of Chavez. But that’s Ok; that’s one way to say “Kill my leader in order to leave me without a head and then deal with me easily.” The other way is to provide for the society itself to fight against crime, especially in barrios, and organize the society. We know that. Even from the US history of fighting  crime back in the Roosevelt years. The society itself. Not the police, or the justice system. The society itself. Organize.

What would be the incentive? You had a situation in Venezuela where people could get a PhD, they could do a Master and instead they chose to join a gang. What would be the incentive for communities to crack down on crime…?

You provide good jobs for the people.

When you nationalize the…

Yes. And good income out of the good jobs. And more leisure time in order to get involved in the political situation. Provide more of a decision-making process for the people. For, let’s say, a convention in every neighborhood. Call the people from every neighborhood to decide what to do in the neighborhood. And whatever the people decide, it will be implemented. They will implement their own decision. Through that, they will fight to implement their own decision. They will be responsible for implementing their own decision.  And through that you will fight gangs, you will fight everything. Most of the people who join gangs do that because they want a different type of an organization. And they find that through gangs. No. They can give them a different organization, and through that organization, they can decide and implement what they decide. They have the first and the last word in their own situation. In the social and political situation they are facing. And through that, who is going to join the opposition or to vote for multimillionaire that doesn’t care even for the people who are working for them. Nobody. Well, you know only the elite or a quasi-elite. How much? 5% of the population? 10% of the population? Whatever.

That’s the same conclusion you draw from the revolutionary process all over Europe from day one. Even if you go back to the great French revolution, or the Paris Commune’s revolution or whatever. You will see the same pattern. If you lose track of money, and if you lose track of grassroot democracy, you will lose permanently. That’s what happened even in the Russian revolution.

But in Cuba they are…

Well, yeah. But in Cuba, it’s a very different story. Because what they realized, even the American elite, realized by now is that the Cuban Revolution survived because of the encirclement of the American hegemony. Because the people, the patriotic people, the Cuban people, created a huge form against any foreign oppression or invasion. So even if the Cubans have any complex about the Castro regime or whatever, Ok, leave it aside, we’ll fight against any kind of foreign invasion and recreation of the Batista regime.

Now, the American polity, the political elite, acknowledge that by going through the back door. They tell to Raul Castro, “Ok. Let’s talk. Let us give you a little bit of money, a few dollars. Instead of having the Americans flying through Canada, Vancouver or Montreal and going to Cuba, Ok, let them go in easily.” They will do the same thing, or try – let’s hope that the Cubans, or the Cuban Party, draw the conclusions we are drawing right now. If they keep the bureaucracy, the party, the state bureaucracy in tact, they will lose the country. One way or another. Because when you have the bureaucracy, it’s easy for someone like the US to buy out their way into the country. No questions asked. We saw that back in the Soviet Union. In a few years’ time, you will see the same. The same one, in a few years’ time, I’m talking about 3 or 4 years, became the worse type of Capitalism in Russia. Party of state bureaucrats. The same thing with Cuba.

I don’t believe that Cuba has any other way out because it has to go through negotiations with the US. But it has to recreate the state apparatus. Give more freedom. Let go of the war-type organization of the society and the economy. Give more space for the people. Invest in the people’s opinion and give them more. Give them more. It’s the only way to defend the regime, of course, and the party – against the new invasion, the invasion of US “friendship” and the takeover of Cuba…

You can fight it easily, but you have to change your own mindset. You see. The type of Ernesto Che Guevara or Fidel Castro type with military clothes has passed… You cannot fight the imperialism, the new stage of imperialism, through these things. Of course, you have to keep up your military alert up to the most possible scenario… you can have a US invasion against you in matter of days. But through that, give more power to the people. Grassroots power, to decide their own decisions. Give them the space to make mistakes. So what?

Going back to Venezuela, some people suggested that if the pro-Chavista military will take over the country that could stabilize things more, they can bring back order…

I don’t know.

Because the way things are going now the opposition will take over the country.

I know, I know. And I see Maduro’s declarations.  It’s a very very risky business. If the military decides to come in, you create a precedent that everyone can use. Even the opposition. And the opposition is far more advanced in these matters than you are, then a movement like the Chavistas or Maduro’s PSUV party. The opposition can do whatever they like. They have the backing of the US.

But there are generals who are different, who have good relations with Cuba, China, Russia, and Iran…

I know, I know. But what about a civil war?

That will happen anyway.

I believe that if they try that, they will have the possibility to create a situation of a civil war for decades. Like in Colombia. You see, a civil war since the 1960s. It’s very difficult, a situation like this.

Either way, if the opposition takes over the Chavistas will do a civil war…

I don’t believe it’s an easy way out right now. What they had to do- they didn’t do, years back. Now, it’s very difficult to choose. Whatever you chose, you’ll have cons and…

But in this kind of a situation you have to make an imperfect decision.

Yeah, exactly.

…And I think the military can make the situation better for everyone.

If you have the military, and at the same time you will have a popular movement, and the popular movement will try to recreate from the bottom-up the whole situation- that’s a good thing. Of course, it’s a risky business, but that’s a good thing. But in order to do that, you cannot stop at anything. If you use a knife, use it well, without any hesitation. I’m talking in a matter of time, and I’m for it, Ok. If you have to use it, use it. You don’t mess around, use it. If you decide that the whole situation is up to cutting some throats, cut them. No questions asked. Cut them. In a few day’s time, in order to pacify the whole situation. If you prolong it, you create more strife. And that’s my opinion. If you decide that the only way out is using the military, do it. And do it in 24 hours, get rid of them all. And then find a way to legitimize. Are they traitors? Ok, they are traitors. Hang them. And let history judge.

From that time on, you will work to put the people in front of the whole situation. And from that point on you will recreate the whole regime, from the bottom-up. A grassroots democracy. And through that everybody, at the end, will say, Ok, it was a situation. And of course, go out to the people and take the blame yourself. You will say that “Ok, it was my fault, as a movement, that we came to that point. We made certain mistakes. We are not going to do that anymore. We will fight for our country because we are facing an invasion, it is a new type of invasion than Syria, but we will fight,” if you decide to use the military. And tell to the people: “Ok, we made the situation worse but we will rectify, with you. And from that point and on, you [the people] will decide, and we will follow.” That’s the only way, if you come to this. And that’s what we said about Greece. If we come to this situation where we have to use weapons or arms to deal with the enemy, we will do that. No hesitation. No way around it. No. We will do that. And we will do that with the most resourceful and efficient way we can do that. In order to resolve the whole situation in the smallest possible time. No prolonging, no nothing. We will fight. We will get rid of them. And then our recreate our own country, we will build a true democracy. And that’s what back in the 40s, the national revolution movement against the Nazi occupation did. Up in the mountains. From day one, they created a democracy for the people. It was very good. But they did the same mistake again. They didn’t trust the people, the grassroots people. And on a specific… the leadership was not adequate to deal with the political situation and accepted the presence of the British military in the country and that was the start of the civil war.

Their mistake was that they didn’t believe in the people. They fought for the people, but they didn’t believe…

The people need to be educated for you to really believe in them…

No. I believe that the people, when they start to fight, they learn from their own experience. Let’s see, you can see the Egypt situation. When the people without a political leadership or a political program, learn how to deal with the government, and how to dethrone a government or a regime – the Mubarak regime – it’s something that, you know, it’s written on the genes, on the people’s genes. They know the way. If they get rid of the fear of dealing with the regime or the government, then it’s easy, to topple one government, and then topple another government. Of course, when you have a political program it is easy to topple a government and create a new political situation. That’s the deficiency of the Egypt situation right now. But the people know how to deal with them…

But that’s only possible when the people reclaim their rights.

Exactly. You cannot have a successful revolution or social insurrection without a political program, a very specific political program. Ok, we don’t want them. We have to know what we want. What will succeed after the toppling of the government or the regime.

That’s where we are trying to organize, and we are trying to educate the people politically. You know, we need democracy. But what kind of democracy? We don’t need any type of democracy; we need grassroots democracy. We need the people to decide, not only every four years but every time any serious situation involving the people comes. To involve the citizens. To create a situation that even one citizen can make a difference.

Why in the world would Merkel want to accept millions of migrants to Germany after she said in the past that multiculturalism failed?

The main problem of the German economy is the export of capital. The net investment position of the German economy is about 26% of the German GDP. It’s a huge provider of capital for the national market. 26%, out of 20% before the EU. So the main strength of the German economy is to keep exporting capital. It’s a more typically imperialist economy compared to the US. Like an old European imperialist economy. Where I need to export capital in order to provide for the financial and economic elite.

In order to do that, it has to squeeze down all the labor costs and the social costs.

Ok, they did that for 20 years. Now they are facing a social situation. They cannot squeeze now, even more, the German labor or the German working class. They need some external force. The Germans know. The Germans know from the 60s. In order to create a German miracle back then they wanted millions of immigrants. That’s the same thing right now. But the difference is back then, it was a different world situation and European situation. A different capitalism, let’s say. They tried, most of them, especially the German trade unions, they tried to take most of the immigrant people, to take them and create a new kind of a German citizen. Now there is no more of that. “We need, immigrants for the specific time of staying in Germany.” “We need – the German oligarchy needs – a few hundred thousand or 1 million immigrants only for a specific time now. We need to get rid of them as soon as they start asking for rights.”

And how will they do that?

Easy. They take them back to Greece. Easy.

It will create a civil war. You can just do that easily…

So what. They did that.

So there could be a civil war in Germany?

Yes. Because the Germans now –  the German worker or the German middle class will lose everything. And that’s why you see Nazi parties in Germany coming up, especially in Bavaria. All over Germany you see people, political factions, that they say that they are not Nazis but Ok, over the political rhetoric you will see that Nazism is coming up again in Germany. Based on the social situation created by that policy.

But not everyone who opposes migration in Germany is a Nazi. They have a right, would you say they have a right to oppose migration?

Yeah, of course. I do. The difference between the Nazis, is the same thing like in the middle war years. The Nazis weren’t against migration. They were for migration, of course using them as slave labor. During the Nazi regime there were 7.5 million migrants working in Germany as slaves. There were more migrants than at any other time in German history.  So, they were not against migration; they were for.

Of course, you had… it was like Marx said. The capitalists are for migration using them in order to bribe their own working class. The same thing happened with the Nazis. They were using slave labor in order to bribe the German working class to accept the Nazi regime. Bribing them or through the army or providing more for the Germans against the slave labor force from Eastern Europe or from all over Europe. They were working for jobs the German working man didn’t want; the jobs were not respectful enough. They were working for less than trash, Ok? And of course, all during the war, the German soldier coming from the working class, had the ability to loot the whole Europe to provide for the family. And that’s how, more or less, it was a blind eye, even for the German working class, a blind eye for what the Nazis did all over Europe, and of course, the death camps and things like that. It’s something you know; it was a bribe. Of course, it was quite different under a totalitarian regime. But it was exactly the utmost scale of what the British imperialists did with the British working class using the slave labor of the Irish back in the 19th century. That’s why Engels and Marx said you have to get rid of the bulk of the Irish, in order for the British working class to become revolutionary. And first and foremost, you have to give national sovereignty for the Irish in order for them to stay in their own country and not to come into Britain. It’s the same thing.

What I found interesting is as you said, just as there is a farmers protest here and entire farms are being taken over by corporations and Monsanto’s power grows more and more, we’re seeing the same crisis in the US. Because the government is taking – from what I learned – the government is taking land from private farmers and ranchers, to create a national park, and then they sell off the area to private corporations, even areas with uranium. So what happened now in Oregon, is that a lot of farmers and ranchers, white farmers and ranchers, came out to protest against the government. But the interesting thing is, that the American Left who you would think would be the first ones to join – didn’t join. So what is your opinion about that?

Well, in my opinion, most of the Left, even in Europe and the United States, lost the ability to know or to acknowledge the real problems. In order to provide a revolutionary movement, let’s say. If we consider the Left to be a revolutionary force, you have to know the grassroots’ problem. You are fighting for the working class, that in order become a dominant class, it has to be a dominant class for the nation. That is what the Communist Manifesto said back in 1845. Marx said that the working class doesn’t have countries. But at the same time he said that since the working class has to gain power, it must become the dominant class of the nation. A nation is not something you sign off at the doorsteps of the country or on the constitution. Nation is something that comes from the bottom-up that creates a society. A place where someone can fight for rights, for the rights to self-government. If you lose sight of that, it’s easy to cross sides and to become part of the dominant class and adopt the ideology of imperialism. See how easy it is nowadays internationally to become mixed up with cosmopolitanism – the ideology of imperialism. “You don’t need nations.” Even in our own country, we have Left forces, saying that because of the migrants and the refugee crisis, “Let’s get rid of the national borders.” Ok. NATO did that for us. That’s what NATO did. So, the extreme left, let’s say, the most radical left, by saying “Let’s get rid of the national borders,” invited actually NATO to do that. That’s why I went out and said that “Ok, the radicals of Left saying that are only agents of NATO imperialism.” It’s the same thing. We’re fighting for the people first and foremost, for everyone who has the right to own a land in the country, as a farmer or as a citizen, to have his own traditions, beliefs, even a religion. I don’t believe in any religion but I will fight to death for my people to have their right to have their own religion. That’s what Ernesto Che Guevara said about the theology of liberation in Latin America. He was not a religious man. But he fought and said that a revolutionary or liberation theology was part of parcel of national liberation movements in Latin America. You can see that even in Greece.

For the people in order to become free, first and foremost they have to have national self-determination. National sovereignty. To become a nation. To become a nation is where the last of the last of the citizens has the right to create the state that the citizen lives in. That’s what nations is all about.  And on top of that he has the ability, has the right, to create his own tradition, it’s own art, civilization. We don’t have to earn a civilization. We have it. Human civilization, created from different cultures, different historical types of civilization. Every type of civilization, of people’s civilization, has the right, to become the dominant civilization in its own country. And by dominant civilization, I don’t mean “get rid of the minority.” No. Every citizen has the right.  In order to do that we have to have national sovereignty. I believe in the Greek tradition. I’m proud of the Greek tradition. Because I know the Greeks that have fought for, the Greeks that came out of the revolution or war of independence, like the US historical textbook I am talking about, and the major slogan from the period was “Freedom or Death.” We were the first people who said “Freedom or Death.” Not “Patria O Muerte” [Homeland or Death] like the Latin Americans. We said that also. But we said “Freedom or Death.” We were fighting not only against Ottomans but against all the empires of Europe, the holy alliance. And I am proud of that tradition. And I have the right to keep to that tradition. And to keep calling myself “I am a Greek.” And since I am a Greek I have a huge tradition looking back. And since I am a Greek, I am living in Greece, I have to fight for democracy. Because it’s my tradition. It’s not only a political demand, it’s my tradition. It was here that the first fight for democracy, real democracy, took place, going back to the classical time.  So it is my tradition.

It’s only a world tradition. It’s my tradition, first and foremost. And that’s why they are fighting against Greece. They want to destroy the Greeks. That’s why they slander Greeks. That they are nowadays Jews for Europe. What the Nazis said about the Jews back in the middle war years, they are saying now about the Greeks. Why? Because they want to destroy the classical tradition of Greece. And the classical tradition of Greece was about democracy. Was about how to provide for the people. Demos we called that. The power of Demos, the power of the people. And they recreate the whole classical tradition, through their own imperialist aims.

They say in Berlin, in Paris, in London, and even in Washington, that they are the continuers of the classical tradition. No, the continuers are us. That’s why I see a civilizational collusion. Different civilizations. And I’m not talking about high from bullshit. I’m talking about real civilizations. Our civilization, even through our religion, it’s not mine but most of the Greeks, we’re talking about free will. The Greek Orthodox Church is based on free will. It’s not like Catholicism or Protestantism. We believe in free will. Because even Christianity had to adopt to the classical Greek tradition. And that’s why in the Greek Orthodox Church you will see even the most religious person talking about free will. The free will of the human.

For us, we are fighting for human freedom. And we are facing the Protestant tradition in terms of economics and politics that says first and foremost it’s submission. No. For us, it’s free will. It’s freedom. Freedom to do whatever we like in terms of the person inside a society. That’s the difference between the Greek culture. Even now the European elite call us stubborn, we don’t cooperate with what they say. Their vision of cooperation is the submission of the person to the totality. A totalitarian view of cooperation. No. We say that we can be different. Quite different. For a different road. But we can fight together. That’s how the Greek city-states back in the fourth century BC fought against the Persians. They were fighting each other before, but in the critical moment, the Athenians decided to leave their own city-state in order to go to Salamis to fight effectively against the Persians. And of course, they were fighting for freedom and democracy against Eastern despotism. That’s the whole meaning. And it’s even today. We are very different. We can fight easily each other. Easily. You can see it even in our own close relations. But at the critical moment, we will find a way to unite and fight the common enemy.

And that’s the difficult part also. We’re not soldiers, like the Germans. Following the leader, the Führer. No. We are quite different. You see, our national hero, one our national heroes is Kolokotronis. Kolokotronis is like, I can translate it in English, Kolos is in us, and kotrona is a stone. It means “us, as a stone.” Kolokotronis.

Foundation?

No. Actually, he had a forefather that could jump easily more than 10 meters from a stationary position. And the Albanians, the Turkish Albanians back then said – he was admired by the Albanians, you know, back then, they were very renowned fighters. And the Albanians called him Kolokotronis, he has an “us” out of a stone in order to jump out of a stationary position ten meters away. That’s why he was called Kolokotronis. Kolokotronis said “it’s easy.” He fought for Napoleon and for the English as a mercenary back in the early 19th century. When he was the leader, one of the military leaders of the Greek revolution, he said “It’s easy to lead a European army. It’s easy. You are the general, you have a staff, you deploy your plan, and then you give the orders to your staff, and the commanders and the staff decide what to do next. It’s very difficult to lead a Greek army. Because a Greek army, you have to go out and say good things about someone, say bad things about the other, give presents to the other, and things like that. It’s very difficult. No European can lead a Greek army.” It’s the Greek society, it’s the Greek flavor, it’s the Greek culture. But that’s what we are. That’s our Greek temperament. That what differentiates us from all over Europe and the Balkans. And that’s what we want to keep. If we go back to the 16th century, the 17th century, if you read the Europeans that came here as travelers, you will see the same thing. When they were coming to Ottoman Greece, they were expected to see philosophers discussing philosophy matters and things like that. Instead they met poor people subjected to a very despotic regime, the southern regime. But they liked the term “freedom.” That’s why all over the place, you’ll see easily, you’ll find the names Elefteris and Eleftheria. Elefteris is a very common name, Elefteris means “free,” “freedom.” Eleftheria means “Freedom” in Greek.  And you’ll see that all over even in the 16th century. English, Germans, French travelers came here, to Ottoman Greece, from all over the place and heard everywhere people saying to each other  “Yasu Elefteris” [Hi Eleftheria]. Elefteris is the Greek name for freedom, or Elefteria – the female name. It’s something, you know, you have to… It goes back centuries. And, we are proud of it, we are not going to get rid of it, and we don’t want to get rid of it, to become a German type of society.  And that’s why the human center of civilization started from here, something to do with the climate, and of course, as Hippocrates said back then, “The Greeks are much better fighters than Asians because they are not under a despotic regime.”

It’s the same thing right now. Of course we are trying to keep up because we don’t have a political situation that is free and democratic but it’s inside every Greek. And you want something like that. They didn’t have… We try to fight, our people fought for that kind… it’s easy for the Greeks when they start fighting to find a way to create a democratic situation. It’s easy for us. We did that back in the war. And if you remember the partisans were fighting up in the mountains. And in the villages are the most socially backward socieities, but in these villages a new kind of democracy was created. And it was easy for the most backward village to adapt that type of democracy, a new type. The villagers created their own judges, they created their own political system and they decided themselves what to do. Under an occupation. Even the intelligence secret agents that fought in Greece, who were of course against the Partisans…

The British?

Yes. Mr. Woodhouse. Even he said, in his own book, afterwards, that in a period of three years of fighting over the mountains, the Greeks managed to civilize the most uncivilized place, the mountains in Central Greece, because you know it’s something with the Greek people. It’s the same thing. The difficult thing for us to start, but after that it’s easy. It’s our tradition. It will come up. We will find our way to create the most fantastic and admirable democracy. The only problem is to convince people you have to get rid of the whole regime, not only a party or a government. Otherwise, you will lose and die.

Thank you very much. Efhartiso poly.

 

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Gladio B and the Battle for Eurasia

TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=12947

‘Operation Gladio B’–the continuation of the old NATO Gladio program–covers a tangled web of covert operatives, billionaire Imams, drug running, prison breaks and terror strikes. Its goal: the destabilization of Central Asia and the Caucasus. In this presentation to Studium Generale in Groningen on November 19, 2014, James Corbett lifts the lid on this operation, its covert operatives, and the secret battle for the Eurasian heartland.

The Battle of Eurasia and ISIS’s role as a False Flag in the new Great Game

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Another “master mind” behind a terror attack was killed last week by the police and can thereby not give any alternatives to the official story.

Imperialist reflexes and symptoms of severe megalomania are sadly the western leaders reactions to what more and more looks like yet another False Flag in the New Great Game, the imperialist US/EU grab in Eurasia. ISIS and NATO’s Gladio-strategies seem to be very strongly linked together. Why would the West support these groups some might ask? Apparently, ‘American foreign policy demands demons’ and why does it demand that?

James Corbett, gives a set of very important facts and draw his conclusions based on reason and investigation. In particular if compared with the official narrative.

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An open source intelligence report

When journalists are not repeaters but true reporters

“The classified DIA report presented in August 2012, stated that “the Salafist, the Muslim Brotherhood, and AQI [Al- Qaeda in Iraq] are the major forces driving the insurgency in Syria,” being supported by “the West, Gulf countries and Turkey.” – READ MORE: Iraq Diary, Day 8: Does the DIA report talk about ISIS roots?

NEW GREAT GAME

“The “Great Game”, the metaphor that is so upsetting to the Western establishment, refers to the struggle for supremacy between the British and the Russians. The Geographical Journal published an article in 1904, that articulated the reason that these great powers were engaged in the struggle for this piece of the globe.”

“The article was called “The Geographical Pivot of History” and was written by Sir Halford John Mackinder PC, the Director of the London School of Economics that was founded by the Fabian Society and folded into the heart of the British establishment in the University of London in 1900. (The cornerstone of the School’s Old Building on Houghton Street was laid by King George V himself). Mackinder is considered the father of the study of geopolitics.

The Geographical Pivot of History” is the document that is often said to be the founding document of geopolitics and constitutes the first formulation of what would come to be called the “Heartland Theory”. This theory starts from the division of what Mackinder called the “World Island” into inherently divided isolated areas. Each of these areas has its own part to play in the unfolding of world history, with the area he called the “Heartland” of the central Eurasian landmass being the pivot point from which a civilization could derive the geopolitical and economic leverage with which to dominate the world as a whole. This was summarized in a famous dictum from his 1919 work, “Democratic Ideals and Reality

“Who rules East Europe commands the Heartland;

Who rules the Heartland commands the World-Island;

Who rules the World-Island commands the World.”

Countries in Central Asia: KAZ Kazakhstan (pop. 16.0 million, capital: Astana), KGZ Kyrgyzstan (5.5 million, capital: Bishkek), TJK Tajikistan (7.3 million, capital: Dushanbe), TKM Turkmenistan (5.1 million, capital: Ashgabat), and UZB Uzbekistan (27.6 million, capital: Tashkent)

Looking at the map of what Mackinder had in mind for the Heartland it’s apparent that the “heart” of this Heartland is indeed the Central Asia-Caucasus region. This is what Russia and Britain were so intent on wresting from each other in the 19th century Great Game: control of the region from which the building of a world empire would be possible. And this is why the Project 2049 Institute and others desperately want to downplay this idea. They don’t under any circumstances want anyone to believe that the US and its NATO allies are intent on regional domination or the formation of a world empire.”

“But fast forward to 1997. In that year, Zbigniew Brzezinski released his book “The Grand Chessboard: American Primacy and its Geostrategic Imperatives” (evidently Brzezinski wasn’t so shy about calling world domination for what it is). Brzezinski does not mince words about the Eurasian Heartland and how important it is to American “global primacy”.”

“Brzezinski predicted that the first great war of the 21st century would take place in this area of the globe and four years later, in the first year of the 21st century, the United States and its NATO allies invaded Afghanistan beginning an occupation that became the longest military operation in the history of America. Meet the New Great Game, same as the Old Great Game. This time it’s NATO against China, Russia and what might be loosely termed a ‘resistance bloc,’ but the idea is almost the same: dominate Central Asia-Caucasus and use it as pivot point to dominate the world.

The Old and New Great Game are similar in many ways. The Old Great Game sprang from British fears that Russian incursion into Central Asia would threaten to topple their hold over the crown jewel of the British Empire, India; the New Great Game springs from the fear that Russian and/or Chinese dominance over Central Asia and the Caucasus would prevent NATO from achieving its goal of “full spectrum dominance.” The Old Great Game involved the British invasion of Afghanistan in 1838 and attempt to install a puppet regime; the New Great Game involved the NATO invasion of Afghanistan and attempt to install a puppet regime. The Old Great Game relied heavily on espionage, spycraft and subterfuge to undermine Russia’s sway over the Heartland; and as we shall see, the New Great Game also heavily relies on covert means to undermine Russian and Chinese influence in the region.”

(This was a few extracts from James Corbetts lecture, “The Secret War: Gladio and the Battle for Eurasia”, which can be watched in its entirety in the video below.)

Gladio B and the Battle for Eurasia

TRANSCRIPT AND SOURCES: http://www.corbettreport.com/?p=12947

‘Operation Gladio B’–the continuation of the old NATO Gladio program–covers a tangled web of covert operatives, billionaire Imams, drug running, prison breaks and terror strikes. Its goal: the destabilization of Central Asia and the Caucasus. In this presentation to Studium Generale in Groningen on November 19, 2014, James Corbett lifts the lid on this operation, its covert operatives, and the secret battle for the Eurasian heartland.

Paris Attacks: William Engdahl Explains the Past, Present and Future of the War in Syria

SHOW NOTES AND MP3 AUDIO: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16975

F. William Engdahl of WilliamEngdahl.com joins us today to give his perspective on the Paris attacks. We discuss the historical background to what is taking place now in Syria, how it plays into the current geopolitical agenda of the US/NATO military powers, and what it means for France, Syria and the world moving forward.

Paris Attacks Truth: ISIS is a False Flag

SHOW NOTES: https://www.corbettreport.com/?p=16964

As The Corbett Report community continues to track the latest updates on the Paris attack investigation, let us not forget the essential underlying truth: ISIS is a creation of the US, Turkey, Israel and the Gulf States, and they are fostered, funded, equipped, armed, trained by the United States, and its Gulf allies, Turkey and Israel protected by the NATO allies and the GCC, France included.

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The US didn’t interfere with the rise of anti-government jihadist groups in Syria that finally degenerated into Islamic State, claims the former head of America’s Defense Intelligence Agency, backing a secret 2012 memo predicting their rise.

An interview with retired Lieutenant General Michael Flynn, former head of the Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), given to Al Jazeera’s Mehdi Hasan, confirms earlier suspicions that Washington was monitoring jihadist groups emerging as opposition in Syria.

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“Color revolutions” – and relevant Institutions and Brands

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  • Brief information about color revolutions 
  • Relevant institution
  • Color revolutions brands
  • Other posts on this topic

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Color revolutions are, without a doubt, one of the main features of global political developments today. Should the reader wonder what a “color revolution” is, keep reading.

Let us first begin with the Wikipedia definition. That website introduces the concept by stating the following:

Color revolution(s) is a term used by the media to describe related [political] movements that developed in several societies in the CIS (former USSR) and Balkan states during the early 2000’s. Some observers have called the events a revolutionary wave.

“Participants in the color revolutions have mostly used nonviolent resistance, also called civil resistance. Such methods as demonstrations, strikes and interventions have been [used to] protest against governments seen as corrupt and/or authoritarian, and to advocate democracy; and they have also created strong pressure for change. These movements all adopted a specific color or flower as their symbol. The color revolutions are notable for the important role of non-governmental organizations (NGOs) and particularly student activists in organizing creative non-violent resistance.

“These movements have been successful in Serbia (especially the Bulldozer Revolution of 2000), in Georgia’s Rose Revolution (2003), in Ukraine’s Orange Revolution(2004), in Lebanon’s Cedar Revolution and (though more violent than the previous ones) in Kyrgyzstan’s Tulip Revolution (2005), in Kuwait’s Blue Revolution (2005), in Iraq’s Purple Revolution (2005), and in Czechoslovakia’s Velvet Revolution (1989), but failed in Iran’s Green Revolution (2009–2010) . Each time massive street protests followed disputed elections or request of fair elections and led to the resignation or overthrow of leaders considered by their opponents to be authoritarian.”

“Color revolutions” are foreign funded psycho-social operations of deception

What the Wikipedia article fails to mention is the massive foreign funding (State Department, Private corporations and affiliated “NGO’s”), and at least a notion that color revolutions are clear psycho-social operations of deception.

It’s a fact that Western governments (especially the US government) and various non-governmental organizations (NGO’s) spend millions of dollars to co-opt and “channel” local populations of targeted countries against their own political leadership.

Empty democracy slogans and flashy colors aside, one can argue that color revolutions are good old-fashioned regime change operations: destabilization without the tanks.

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The secret ingredient is a sophisticated science used to manipulate emotions and circumvent critical thinking. History shows that, to much of the power elite, humanity is seen as a collection of nerve endings to be pushed and pulled one way or the other, sometimes made to tremble in fear, sometimes made to salivate like Pavlov’s dogs. These days the manipulation is so pervasive, so subtle, so effective, that even critical individuals at times must necessarily fail to recognize how often – or in what context – they have fallen prey.

Of course fear is the most obvious emotion played upon to effect massive social change. One need only to reflect upon the last fourteen years, since 9/11, to know that fear is a primary instrument used to initiate and justify dangerous shifts in public policy.

But as humanity has been physiologically equipped with a range of emotions, and is not merely arrested and controlled by fear alone, a strata of behavioral and political science also found it useful to master the flip-side of the emotional spectrum, and by that we mean desire. All that, drives groups of individuals to act, even in the face of fear, in pursuit of something worthwhile.

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Many are the professions that utilize this type of understanding, including (but not limited to) marketing, advertising, public relations, politics and law-making, radio, television, journalism and news, film, music, general business and salesmanship; each of them selling, branding, promoting, entertaining, sloganeering, framing, explaining, creating friends and enemies, arguing likes and dislikes, setting the boundaries of good and evil: in many cases using their talents to circumvent their audiences’ intellect, the real target being emotional, often times even subconscious.

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Looking beneath the facade of the color revolutionary movement we also find a desire-based behavioral structure, in particular one that has been built upon historical lessons offered by social movements and periods of political upheaval.

It then makes sense that the personnel of such operations include perception managers, PR firms, pollsters and opinion-makers in the social media. Through the operational infrastructure, these entities work in close coordination with intelligence agents, local and foreign activists, strategists and tacticians, tax-exempt foundations, governmental agencies, and a host of non- governmental organizations.

Collectively, their job is to make a palace coup (a situation in which a leader is removed from power by the people who have worked with him or her) seem like a social revolution; to help fill the streets with fearless demonstrators advocating on behalf of a government of their choosing, which then legitimizes the sham governments with the authenticity of popular democracy and revolutionary fervor.

Because the operatives perform much of their craft in the open, their effectiveness is heavily predicated upon their ability to veil the influence backing them, and the long-term intentions guiding their work.

Their effectiveness is predicated on their ability to deceive, targeting both local populations and foreign audiences with highly-misleading interpretations of the underlying causes provoking these events.

A color revolution is only an instrument of foreign policy – only a tool – the ultimate object being the geopolitical advantages gained by powerful financiers and the brain trust they employ. It follows that understanding geopolitical context (and motive) is necessary to understand the purpose of the color revolution.

The rest of this post highlights specific institutions of power

“Never utter these words: ‘I do not know this, therefore it is false.’ One must study to know; know to understand; understand to judge.” – Apothegm of Narada

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SCROLL DOWN FOR LINKS TO RELEVANT INSTITUTIONS AND FURTHER DOWN FOR COLOR REVOLUTION BRANDS

The following institutions are central to the topics addressed here. (click on image to visit their home sites):

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National Endowment for Democracy (NED)

National Endowment for Democracy (NED)

International Republican Institute (IRI)

International Republican Institute (IRI)

National Democratic Institute (NDI)

National Democratic Institute (NDI)

Center for International Private Enterprise (CIPE)

Center for International Private Enterprise (CIPE)

Solidarity Center of the AFL-CIO

Solidarity Center of the AFL-CIO

World Movement for Democracy

World Movement for Democracy

United States Institute of Peace (USIP)

United States Institute of Peace (USIP)

US Agency for International Development (USAID)

US Agency for International Development (USAID)

Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

Council on Foreign Relations (CFR)

Brookings Institution

Brookings Institution

American Enterprise Institute

American Enterprise Institute

The Heritage Foundation

The Heritage Foundation

The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

The Carnegie Endowment for International Peace

Freedom House

Freedom House

International Crisis Group (ICG)

International Crisis Group (ICG)

Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect (R2P)

Global Centre for the Responsibility to Protect (R2P)

International Coalition for Responsibility to Protect (R2P)

International Coalition for Responsibility to Protect (R2P)

Amnesty International

Amnesty International

Human Rights Watch

Human Rights Watch

The Arlington Institute

The Arlington Institute

RAND Corporation

RAND Corporation

Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS)

Center for Strategic and International Studies (CSIS)

Eurasia Foundation

Eurasia Foundation

Open Society Institute

Open Society Institute

Internews

Internews

Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ)

Committee to Protect Journalists (CPJ)

Reporters Without Borders

Reporters Without Borders

Voice of America

Voice of America

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty

Radio Free Europe/Radio Liberty

International Center on Nonviolent Conflict (ICNC)

International Center on Nonviolent Conflict (ICNC)

Albert Einstein Institution(AEI)

Albert Einstein Institution(AEI)

Center for Applied Nonviolent Actions Strategies (CANVAS)

Center for Applied Nonviolent Actions Strategies (CANVAS)

Movements.org

Movements.org

Color Revolution Brands:

OTPOR! (Serbia), 2000

OTPOR! (Serbia), 2000

ZUBR! (Belarus), ongoing

ZUBR! (Belarus), ongoing

KMARA! (Georgia), 2003

KMARA! (Georgia), 2003

PORA! (Ukraine), 2004

PORA! (Ukraine), 2004

Cedar Revolution (Lebanon), 2005

Cedar Revolution (Lebanon), 2005

KelKel (Kyrgyzstan), 2005

KelKel (Kyrgyzstan), 2005

Obama Campaign (United States), 2008

Obama Campaign (United States), 2008

Jasmine Revolution (Tunisia), 2011

Jasmine Revolution (Tunisia), 2011

April 6th Movement (Egypt), 2011

April 6th Movement (Egypt), 2011

National League for Democracy (Myanmar), ongoing

National League for Democracy (Myanmar), ongoing

Green Movement (Iran), ongoing

Green Movement (Iran), ongoing

Girifna (Sudan), Ongoing

Girifna (Sudan), Ongoing

Oborona (Russia), ongoing

Oborona (Russia), ongoing

Red Shirt Movement (Thailand), ongoing

Red Shirt Movement (Thailand), ongoing

Bersih (Malaysia), ongoing

Bersih (Malaysia), ongoing

Movement for Democratic Change (Zimbabwe), ongoing

Movement for Democratic Change (Zimbabwe), ongoing

Local Coordination Committees (Syria), ongoing

Local Coordination Committees (Syria), ongoing

MJAFT! (Albania), ongoing

MJAFT! (Albania), ongoing

White Ribbon Movement (Russia), ongoing

White Ribbon Movement (Russia), ongoing

Occupy Movement (United States), ongoing

Occupy Movement (United States), ongoing

Free Pussy Riot! (PR Stunt)

Free Pussy Riot! (PR Stunt)

Why the plundering of Greece was staged

A chronicle in three interconnected components: INTRODUCTION, REASONS and EPILOGUE – About the planned looting of Greece, as a ‘necessity’ for the dismantlement of European democracy, justice and freedom. (translated from the original article in Swedish)

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INTRODUCTION

 

579109_228685723929053_115011835_nBehind the decision to plunder Greece, there are several reasons (as always, when great powers decides to attack a country). There is never just one reason, when great powers are marching,… nor is it so in the case of Greece.

For the Globo (the global currency) to be introduced and well received, economic “suicide-bombers”, the credit financial system that is, have triggered its most explosive components. An unavoidable economic crisis must be used to elicit acceptance of the currency, and then the launchpad must be prepared from an already manipulated and controlled so-called ‘free and democratic nation’ of Europe. It is from this nation, that the old Europe, the old “civilization tools”, democracy, justice, human rights and the old ideals of liberty, equality and solidarity are about to be buried.

Some of the obvious “operations” behind the plundering, are just ‘unfortunate’ collisions of interests between the great powers (for the petrodollar systems’ preservation), and other “operations” are carefully planned “cultural attacks” and economic, social and political reforms, in order to weaken the folk-spirit, the social “glue” and the unity of a people. Simply put; very well-planned they have sought to weaken peoples ability to resist against the coming plundering. In Greece’s case it is about a plundering, that the European elite had in mind and have prepared for, since the mid 70’s.

Regardless if I, through my articles on the Greek crisis may seem tedious, in the recurring, short, historical flashbacks, I will continue to highlight the modern Greek history and the superpowers interference in Greece’s development, until it is as well-known as the Holocaust (because it has cost Greece millions of lives and enormous suffering, every 30 years, over the past 182 years). When someone denies the Holocaust, he/she is considered as stupid, an anti-semit and as a nazi-sympathizer,… fairly justified I would say, but when someone wants to downplay and ignore the great powers “rape” of Greece, he/she is a visionary, constructive and “do not want to dig into the past”. This is obvious today, because it is clear that everyone else seems to prefer to forget about the repeated abuse of Greece by the European powers,… At least,.. they wish to put that fact aside and they prefer to see this issue as over with. How can one see it as over with, when the oligarchy-tendencies, the corruption in Greece and the escalating debt are all based on this particular history? How can this ever be over with, when Greece today loses 3-8 future generations, its independence and its sovereignty due to unspecified debts, created by these great powers in cooperation with unusually obedient, Greek governments and shameless businessmen, over the last 4-5 decades?

The perpetrator of course always want to see his crimes as over with, with time, but the victim who still suffers the consequences want vindication first, and he/she wants to see justice prevail before he/she can put this aside and heal his/her wounds. The more the Europeans want to “put a lid on” this story, the more myself and some other Greeks, will run the facts down the throats of the Europeans, until they MUST take this history into account and the decisive involvement of the superpowers, which clearly have “paved the way” for Greece’s current situation …

Established, Swedish, journalists from the “approved” media, will of course NOT participate in this ‘information campaign’ and especially NOT those with a Greek background. Sadly enough, I am convinced about this fact, after three years of silence or sporadic, lifestyle journalism on this topic from them. “They have their job to think about”, I suppose! So far, their articles and reports in the Swedish media, have been “pale” and styled with a deliberate down silencing of the Greek people’s actual arguments, actions and resistance. Regardless of whether both Mikis Theodorakis ‘SPITHA and Dimiris Kazakis’ EPAM are two resistance movements, that have been judicially and politically active since the summer of 2010, and  today have thousands of active members all over Greece, none of the Greek-Swedish journalists have ever mentioned a word about these movements in their reports. This is of course hardly because of ignorance or lack of information, but rather because they find themselves media-gagged but still continues to call themselves journalists.

Historical review:

The Greek nations’ dependency on the great powers (Prussia, Russia, Britain, France, USA and Germany) since 1824, has been disastrous, as the cooperation with these powers rarely brought any real benefit for Greece, but rather the opposite. The Balkan wars, two world wars, a genocide, a civil war, two dictatorships and a long term illegitimate involvement in Greek politics and affairs, is what the superpowers involvement in Greece has meant for the Greeks, over the last 182 years. Since the liberation war against the Ottomans in 1821, the European powers lied and broke promises on a regular basis, while forcing the country into extreme excessive debt, in relation to the sums actually needed (sometimes up to 50 times larger loans than what was applied for). The country has gone bankrupt twice before since 1821, and now in 2012, it was the third time in modern Greek history (because Greece IS in fact bankrupt since a year back, regardless whether European banks and profiteers, first wants to loot the country and its resources, with the so-called “controlled” bankruptcy, they are mumbling about in the European media). These bankruptcies were thoroughly “nourished” and brought about, by one or more of these great powers and many of the loans, that had been written off through the bankruptcies, reappears in the current “debt”. Why?

After the bloody wars that the great powers involved Greece in, the interests of Greece and the Greek people where always put aside, when the time came to sign the peace agreements. One of many examples is about how they where forced to take large loans to BUY back their own railways, that where reconquered during the bloody wars. These great powers blackmailed the Greeks constantly, by delaying the recognition of the country’s borders. This has been a consistent strategy of the great powers, which incidentally, for over a century and a half, has deliberately prevented the country’s actual development. After the War of Independence against the Ottomans, it was always the great powers’ unwillingness to give full recognition of Greece’s geographical borders, its independence and its sovereignty, that ‘blackmailed’ Greek political rule and business, and conducted the country’s’ economic direction. The full recognition weren’t fully given until 1974 (requested from 1824?), but by then the country was once again ‘drowned’ in foreign debt, so any independence or sovereignty, could  of course not be used for Greece’s best then either. Thus the country has NOT  really been free to manage its own affairs since 1453, when the Ottomans began the nearly 660 years long line, of foreign rule of Greece. After the Ottomans (1824), the above mentioned European powers, took control of Greece, one after the other. First, by placing King Otto, a Bavarian king, on the Greek throne, after the Greek freedom fighters had got rid of a 400-year long Ottoman rule. This was enforced, despite the fact that the freedom fighters and the Greek people, very clearly, showed that it was the country’s freedom and a genuine, Greek democracy, they had fought for and not for a European style monarchy.

This obligatory background knowledge, is needed in order to understand that the current Greek crisis, which in its actual root is cultural, not economic,… in fact is a smelly and highly toxic legacy, from the European powers. More about Greek, modern history, on the following link: Modern Greece: A History since 1821

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REASONS

In Greece’s case, the plundering goes on today, due to a combination of the following real causes and reasons:

1) Strategic, geographical position which has attracted imperialists to conquer or to control Greece, throughout history.

Eastern_Med_MapGreece, is the only nation in the world with borders to three continents and which, throughout thousands of years, have influenced them and have been influenced by them, has traded with all three continents, and served as a cultural and philosophical-scientific “key” between them – The geo-political plans of the great powers, for the the Middle East, the Balkans and the Eastern Mediterranean, turn Greece into a country which the great powers have been, and still are, extremely interested in controlling. Ex: The military junta in Greece, took power 21 April 1967 – 6 weeks later, June 5, 1967, the six-day war between Israel – Egypt, Syria and Jordan, began – U.S. needed to establish and secure American military bases in Greece, to support the Israeli forces, and this was also the important role of the military junta, for the United States. Something that would have been impossible under a real democratic, Greek parliament (the situation today is not so much different from the one in 1967, given that Israel and USA are rampaging Syria today with Iran as their target)… Once the junta finally was overthrown, it was important to the CIA that a right politician, Konstantinos Karamanlis, became the only alternative, after the dictatorship of the general’s. This, because Anwar Sadat’s success in the “October War” 1973, against Israel, worried the Americans. 1981, when finally a left government was ‘allowed’ to win the election in Greece, it was well timed enough, shortly after Sadat and Reagan shook hands, outside the White House. A few months later, Sadat was assassinated and Rockefeller-socialism emerged as the left-government in Greece (Andreas Papandrepou, leader of PASOK took a “loan” from David Rockefellers’, Chase Manhattan Bank, of 100 million dollars to start the Greek Socialist Party [Papandreous contract]).

Several, extremely crucial and well-timed, political events, where ‘orchestrated’ in Greece, really with only the great powers’ plans for the region in mind (the Balkans, the Middle East, Eastern Mediterranean). As long as the Middle East is a powder keg, the great powers want to have Greece as one of its arms depots, the Greek government as one of their obedient governments and its ‘rebellious’ people, on its knees.

A month ago, the Greek Army and the Israeli Army, officially announced their close cooperation, despite the fact that over 80% of the Greek people are against Israel’s foreign policy and their illegal occupation of the West Bank and Gaza. They are for Palestinian rights, and they believe that the Israeli military forces are committing a war crime, against the Palestinian people.

2) Greece’s corrupt oligarchs and the great powers involvement, in the affairs of the Greek society

kissinger_players_ap-708730aThe widespread racist doctrine, that suggests that southern Europeans are more dishonest than northern Europeans, is based on a carefully well marketed ‘smokescreen’ that they have lowered in front of the European’s eyes. This, in order to hide the great power’s and the big finances’ illegal and immoral interference in other countries’ affairs, throughout the whole postwar period.

In Greece it is in reality, apart from an excessive, unwarranted interference by the great powers in the Greek society  and for far too long (1821), about a very carefully planned NSA/CIA operation, which began in 1974. That operation, deliberately “paved the way”, for a social climate in Greece in which politicians, businessmen, media moguls and judges, acted as “dealers” and intermediaries to foreign interests. After the, by Henry Kissinger expressed, planned and implemented, NSA/CIA attack on the Greek society in 1974, it stands clear that very different ‘interests’ than the Greek, have been taking turns to spread corruption, division and injustice in the Greek society, during the past 40 years.

The hawks in Washington DC, crafted plans for the “disobedient” Greeks, after the fall of the junta (which was Washington-supported, but meant to last longer than just 7 years). Henry Kissinger, former American Secretary of State and one of the 10 most powerful men in the world today, expressed himself in the U.S. Congress in September 1974, with the following words:

“The Greek people is anarchic and difficult to control. Therefore, we must strike deep into their cultural roots, maybe then we can  force them to conform.

I mean, of course, to strike at their language, their religion, their cultural and historical reserves, so that we can neutralize their ability to develop and to distinguish themselves, and their ability to fight and win – and thereby remove them as an obstacle to our vital strategic plans in the Balkans, the Mediterranean and the Middle East. “

1aaUnfortunately, they have managed to get far with these plans, to this date. The Greeks have, since the mid 70’s, been ‘bombarded’ with “modern” reforms and “legislative changes” (in order to be ‘europeanized’, it was called), which strongly weakened exactly the culture, the language, the identity and the Greek people’s unique strengths and ability to rise up against tyranny. In Greece now many clearly see the disastrous consequences of the economic and political circus, that with many western governments help and protection, freely have ravaged the country since 1974. Everyone in Greece has seen it and experienced it, and the vast majority KNOW very well through which ‘foreign interests’, the Greek oligarchs maintain their private empires.

Oddly enough, none of the Greek media bothered to seriously match Mr Kissinger’s speech, with the reforms and social and economic changes over the last four decades (not here either, in my blog, among the ‘informed’, has anyone reacted in any considerable relevant way, when I several times over the past two years published Kissinger’s statement).. Its is  unnecessary now, because we have reached a point where the tragic facts speak for themselves. American, former “economic hit men” and former CIA agents have declared that Greece has been subjected to a long lasting (about four decades), cultural and economic “terrorist attack” and economic top analysts concluded that the Greek crisis is orchestrated by George Soros and Wall Street together with a couple of big European banks. We see and hear the fake final aria in Kissinger’s Greek version of the Swan Lake, in other words.

3) Greek natural resources that major powers and neighboring countries ‘desire’

τα κοιτασματα υδρογοναθρακων στην ΕΛΛΑΔΑ 01The huge natural resources, which “did not exist” and therefore were not exploited, as long as Greece could decide about them themselves (something that the “memorandum packages” now prevents). Everyone, are raising their eyebrows, when the timing of the discovery of the resources and the  Greek government’s signing of the “support-package-agreement with the EU/ECB/IMF, is so clearly disastrous for the Greeks, but so incredibly ideal for those who want to plunder Greece. The, by Washington DC and London, radar-guided, obedient Greek governments, has not established the Greek EEZ, which means that then ‘one can not exploit ones own natural resources’. This has hardly been done for the best of the Greeks. This favors, beyond the great powers, in fact, Greece’s’ neighbor countries, especially Turkey, which is of great interest to the EU. Much has probably been promised to Ankara, that Greek people do not know about, but are now beginning to understand.

Below: an extracted and translated part of my Swedish article that fully cover this issue, “Om de Grekiska naturtillgångarna och det Europeiska spelet bakom dem

“… Another question that has puzzled us Greeks for years is why Greece, which has the second largest EEZ the Mediterranean Sea (Exclusive Economic Zone), has NOT officially established it, as the single country out of 142 countries in the world? What are they waiting for? Who benefits from Greece NOT establishing its EEZ? An officially established EEZ is namely essential, if one want to exploit one’s own natural resources. What lies behind the Greek governments’ clear desire to postpone this issue for decades? Georgios Kasimatis, Constitutional professor – Mikis Theodorakis (SPITHA / KAP) – Manolis Glezos (SYRIZA and SPITHA) and economist Dimitris Kazakis (EPAM) has a very clear and well-founded answer to this question…The answer is: We have had governments in Greece since long back that look after foreign intersets instead of the Greek interests. Their knowledge on the subject primarily, but also statements by politicians from the three neighboring countries, shows a clear tendency towards “scrambles” with the EU about Greek natural resources and land… This is why all of Europe is silent about the crystal clear democratic and constitutional violations against Greece and therefore they were silent, when Goldman Sachs “helped” the Greek finance Ministry to fix numbers, for entry into the Euro Union. Everyone is waiting like hyenas to rip the carcass apart as soon as they get an OK from the “hunter”. Likewise they speak very quiet about the $ 200 billion that has been smuggled INTO Greece and washed white, in the last almost three years, while the Euro Group have had full insight into Greek affairs.”

The EEZ issue is the most important in terms of Greece’s possibilities to exploit its own natural resources and thus, lift itself out of the current disaster. The globalists don’t want that to happen at all!

4) Greek folk culture, a breeding ground for freedom struggles and liberation wars against tyranny

greek-revolution-1821-n1-greece-greece+1152_13307747709-tpfil02aw-2343Greece has a very long history and a rooted folk culture, where the individual freedom, the states freedom and social and political justice, played a very big role. It’s about the folk culture which through its history and its literature, has given birth to streams of liberation movements worldwide and recurrent in history people has through them, strongly opposed and fought against despotism and tyranny. With the current, apparent EU plans in mind, one can, however, understand that they do not want the Greeks to have access to their cultural “spears,” their spiritual “swords” and their moral “shields”, that has been proved to be extremely strong and difficult phenomenons to defeat previously. Therefore, it was also these very phenomenon’s that Kissinger “targeted” in the Greek society.

Declaration_of_the_Rights_of_Man_and_of_the_Citizen_in_1789The French revolution was based on the resurgence of the classic Greek values and because of the Ottoman occupation of Greece, the intellectual exile-Greeks in Paris had resurrected ancient ideas, thoughts and virtues in the French poets, writers and philosophers of the 18th century, so that the  basic ideas of the revolution took form with ancient Greece as footrest – The fact is that, even its own revolution, the Greek Independence War of 1821, would have been impossible, unless the classical Greek thinking and arts had had free “ventilation-spacein Paris for several decades, but also in Odessa and Vienna and already had fertilized the great European revolution. Rigas Fereos poetry inspirited the French revolution. The very serious distinction between these two revolutions though is that the French Revolution was executed by French people against the French aristocracy, but the Greek revolution was about a relatively small group of freedom-fighters starting a revolution against one of the greatest empires on the planet in those days. An empire that all of Europe feared.

We are still waiting for the “thanks” from Europe who for centuries couldn’t manage what a band of Greek freedom fighters with massive public support managed.

THIS folk culture, THOSE traditions and THAT literature, does not suit the globalists plans at all today, so they prefer that this culture is weakened, its teachings distorted and that it is under their control.

5) Demands for vengeance by the conservative and nationalistic part of the German electorate.

photo013The nationalistic part of the German folk-spirit wants “revenge” for the costly “tripping”, Greece caused the Nazis in World War 2, which did cost the Nazis the whole war. Scheuble, confessed openly in the German media, that their “voters demanded punishment of the Greeks.” Through the follow-up questions it became clear that it was not about punishment only for Greek economic carelessness, but mainly for their tendency to “insolence” and “disobedience” (see in paragraph 2. how Kissinger put it).

The mob-rhetoric and the smearing of Greeks in general by the German government and media (with its satellite governments and media in the north as an assent crow-choir), has not to do with facts or real economic reasons, but it is mainly an expression of a wounded folk-spirit of the conservative part of the Germans. That is what Scheuble’s and Merkel’s voters have stated with their obvious desires. They thought so much of their soldiers, when all of Europe crouched and trembled at the sight of Vermacht, that they couldn’t or can’t  swallow the fact that an army, where only every other soldier had been given an old weapon from World War 1 and barely uniforms to all, could fight for 7 full months against their dreaded troops and offer such an effective resistance throughout the rest of the war  (cf: second longest resistance was Norway’s with 61 days)

german-troops-creteFrom the CDU’s voters, there are apparently many who have relatives buried in Greece, especially in Crete, since the war. Tens of thousands of German soldiers were buried in Greece and the phenomenon, German cemeteries in Greece, cost the nationalist majority of the Germans much more than what the European ‘historical description’ today want to admit.

Regardless of how odd it may sound, for people without the emotional experiences of the actual, psychological and social after effects of war, in Greece we KNOW, after long and close association with German people in general, both in Germany (500,000 Greeks are living there, most of them since the 60’s) but also in our tourist destinations, that the wounds inflicted to the Nazis by the Greeks and that caused the loss of the war, are not yet healed in many of the conservative and nationalistic German hearts.

6a) An anti-Hellenic lobby has been needed in order to prepare the way and promote the dogma of  Rothschild-Zionism

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Before the global elite can launch a long desired global paradigm shift, an induced shift of the main and basic human values and norms, the old foundations, must first be accused, slandered and falsified and facts must be distorted. Various other cultures have had to endure this throughout history (North-South American Indians, Celts, Persians, Arabs, Africans, Polynesians and others). However now it’s not about the destruction of a culture but the destruction of the whole of the Hellenic foundations of the western civilization. The globalists, who themselves claim that they are *Zionists and this regardless of whether they are Jewish or not, now aim to replace the basic human values that is the base of western societies, by a very aggressive propaganda opposing the old values, freedom, justice, humanityHellenism is the cradle of the values ancient Phariséeism or RothschildZionism detest.

Hellenism = Hellenistic (also called classical) schooling, education and upbringing, ie classical Greek literature-philosophy-science-arts-music-theater-athletics-pancration (martial arts), taught properly in balance and in an adequate symbiosis with each other,.. plus a moral approach towards the human and humanity, has proved to offer the most essential safeguards against tyranny, despotism, monarchy and oligarchy – Hellenism, as a broader term, originates from the word ellinismos (describes the genetic, geographic, cultural and spiritual roots of the Hellenes/Greeks) and is NOT limited to only the classical period of ancient Greece and later Rome, as Wikipedia and many other encyclopedias suggest. The word describes the ENTIRE history of the Hellenes (the Ionian and the Doric tribes). Hellenism has throughout the recorded history been *Zionisms and its predecessors, the Pharisees, enemy No. 1. This of course, because it represents a direct threat to what later became the *Zionist worldview, the Zionist dogma.Hellenism highlights the importance of human freedom, it develops free thinking and offer the spiritual and intellectual tools, so that each individual can be able to develop  independent, free, critical thinking. *Zionism, in which the individual and free critical thinking is seen as a weakness for the collective and in which the individual is seen as merely a cog in a larger machinery, considered the Hellenic thoughts about the free human as nonsense and even as dangerous for the community. This ‘attitude’ towards Hellenic teachings is also what is diligently spread in the schools and in the common encyclopedias today.

This is why today the concept of freedom is distorted and changed into freedom without responsibilities (capitalism, neo-liberalism)or even into, too much freedom is dangerous for the human societies (conservatism, totalitarianism, autocracy).

“when truth has been peeled out of history, all that is left of it, is a worthless story”

Polybios

Since about 70 years now an anti-Hellenic lobby has deliberately been spreading false teachings and pseudo-arguments among secondary school’s, college’s and universities, with the aim to undermine the classic, Hellenistic education. Anyone who is a bit familiar with the recorded facts in the history of mankind notice this without difficulties, primarily through the major encyclopedias obvious omission and distortion of important knowledge and facts about the legacy of the Greeks. On closer examination you can very easy discover a deliberate manipulation of facts behind the history of the Hellenes, their discoveries, their knowledge, their origin and their language.

Pure cultural persecution has been conducted against Hellenism from a Rothschild-Zionist lobby among academics, with the aim to undermine the possibilities for students to discover the genuine European heritage and the real western spiritual origin and instead replace it with a Rothschild-Zionist worldview. 

Tens of thousands of worried academics worldwide, has been sounding the alarm about this over decades. A large number of professors from all over the world argue that there is a deliberate anti-Hellenic lobby within the academic world, that want to remove Greek education in general from the curriculum in the major universities. A climate thrives in these where Hellenism is considered to be “overrated” and as being based on an up-picking of achievements of neighboring cultures. All such claims can of course be rebutted quite thoroughly and without any difficulties at all, not least by the neighboring cultures own literature, but the damage is still done because the vast majority of the students never make an effort to search for the real facts on these issues.They tend to stick to the common approach to this heritage. An approach to knowledge which by itself actually proves the increasing dissociation from the Hellenic approach to knowledge  It seem fairly unnecessary to most people to question the established encyclopedias, popular science magazines and some of the top universities ways to convey the valuable heritage of the Greeks. It is to most even less likely that, in our “enlightened” time, someone would deliberately distort the truths about our existence, our origins and our true history.

Brave professors, lecturers and academics as Mary Lefkowitz, Victor Hansen and Bruce S Thornton among many others have alarmed about this. Since it exists so much written in Greek, which through the ancient original texts, proves that the ‘anti-Hellenic lobby’ is spreading sheer lies about Greek culture, the Latin replaced classical Greek a few decades ago as the language of literature, philosophy and science. Most major encyclopedias today therefore ignore the actual, original texts (relatively undetected) and refers only to them through – far too often – very shallow interpretations and pure guesses by translators who have tried to comprehend the thinking of the ancient Greeks. They could have let the Classic Greek remain and even teach it more in its talking form, so that every student himself/herself could read the original texts and interpret them himself/herself. After all more than 85% of the books and scrolls in the infamous Library of Alexandria was in Greek. Why must the saved remains of these books content be explained to the world today by a bunch of interpreters?

6b) Short idea-historic retrospective on Zionism and Hellenism:

The Hebreo-Chaldean tribes:

praised the ‘importance of the collective’ and built their world view and their view on the human and humanity largely on religion, mythology, the natural conditions, ‘necessities’ for the survival of the tribes and pure superstition. ‘Science’, Philosophy and Religion in these cultures had to comply with eachother and theauthority, the ‘king’, the ‘emperor’, the ‘demigod’, the ‘prophet’, who was considered to have direct contact with “God” and could therefore NOT be criticized openly. He was infallible and his word could not be questioned. Any ‘weakness’ of their authority was supposed to cause chaos and anarchy in a society. They were “theocentric”, ie with a god and a priesthood (Sanhedrin) in the center of their societies. They felt in these tribes that they needed and that they wanted a ‘shepherd’, THEIR ‘shepherd’. From around 1 500 BC the elite of the Sanhedrin, ie the highest Jewish council of the synagogue of ancient times and today’s Rothschild-Zionism (not necessarily Jewish), has always seen Hellenism as its archenemyThis, because automatically, through its main characteristics, its literature and its ancient mystery traditions, Hellenism forms a constant threat to the Rothschild-Zionism’s worldview and its fundamental views on the human and humanity. Precursors of Rothschild-Zionism is actually NOT the whole of Sanhedrin but only a specific group within the ancient Sanhedrin, the highest Jewish council in the synagogue, namely the Pharisées. If you look deeper in their key political, religious, Jewish currents as a common denominator, then the Rothschild-Zionists today are the heirs of the Pharisees.Phariséism was a Jewish, religious, political party who interpreted the Torah and the law of Moses literally, but also rigidly (it was dictated instead of inspired) so the actual ethos and the spiritof the law became rigid and stiff and thus an extremely favorable tool for elitism, racism and tyranny. Today’s fundamentalism, extremism and racism in any religion or ideology is based on this kind of a rigid ethos.

The Ionian and Doric tribes:

ie the Hellenes (Greeks), praised the individuals importance and placed the human being in the center of their concern and they built their worldview and their view on Humanity on critical observations, science and knowledge of the human role in nature and in universe. They were “anthropocentric”, with the human being in the center and they looked at the world and mankind from an investigative perspective based on their own observations and studies. They did not live particularly different from their neighbors, but THE WAY THEY LOOKED UPON HOW THEY LIVED constituted their uniqueness in comparison with ALL other cultures in the ancient world. They examined everything from a critical perspective and this critical, investigative approach they also turned towards their own functions, behavior, institutions, ideas and thinking. Where most other cultures saw more or less similar patterns the Greeks, through their perspective, distinguished details, differences and exceptions. They could place their focus of observation beyond nature, humans and even the gods and examine everything from a rational, investigative, scientific perspective. The Greeks had the ability to see life steadily and see it whole, rather than remain enslaved by custom, tradition, superstition, nature or by the brute force of the political and clerical elite. It sought to free itself from the ‘shackles’, the kind of existence that often dictate people’s lives through dogma, creeds, traditions, customs and practices, and therefore breed non-examined, ingrained, ‘mechanical’ behavior patterns and routines. The Hellenes wanted to be fully ‘conscious’ in their perception and their behavior. To them it was therefore essential that Science, Philosophy and Religion were decoupled from each other, in order for free thinking to develop at all. This was something that was unthinkable in ALL the other cultures as this view was seen as dangerous and as a threat to the order,the monarchy and the clerical elite.

The biggest achievement, with this approach to life was the birth of the organized, critical thinking and thus the concept of freedom. Something that before the Greeks, existed only for kings and emperors with their courts. From this critical thinking, an organized idea that all human beings are born free and independent and therefore has the right to form and decide about their lives, was born,.. so therefore for instance slavery was seriously criticized and later abolished in ancient Athens around 300 BC (about 2000 years before anyone else). They showed by their celebration of the development of human qualities, that they did not want to be dependent on any ‘shepherd’, but that they themselves were capable of becoming the best ‘shepherds’ for their own lives, as long as they learned to understand microcosmosand macrocosmos and the natural principles that govern nature and universe.

The Hebrews were looking for “God” outside themselves and the Hellenes were looking for “God” in themselves…

It is really this ancient schism between two contradicting idea-worlds and spiritual traditions,… this “schizophrenia” between Hellenism and Phariséeism, today’s Rothschild-Zionism, that the ruling classes have tried to crowd into ONE in the ‘modern Western civilization’. This paradox and this fundamental clash of ideas, is what really reflects the whole Western society in all its institutions, its culture its societies, its social character and its basic views on humans and Humanity.

  • We believe that we base our societies and ‘democratic’ states on noble values, but everywhere we structurally violate these values on a daily basis for the sake of financial profit, power and self-pleasure.
  • We believe that we are freer than others, but we captivate ourselves more than any other culture by the shackles of materialism and the devotion of only the physical, the flesh..
  • We say that we defend freedom and human rights, but its obvious that the western Governments and institutions doesn’t count in all of humanity in the same standards.

We claim Hellenism in our spoken words and our writings but we are devoted to Rothschild-Zionism in our thoughts, behavior and our practiced values, our institutions and our administrations. In our so called ‘democratic institutions’, a tremendous dehumanization of others is an accepted ingredient in our relations to others. In fact every bizarre paradox that we discover in the western societies can be traced back to this particular cultural and spiritual “schizophrenia” between Hellenism and Phariséeism or Rothschild-Zionism.

Today Rothschild-Zionism is striving to bury Hellenism and go back to pre-Hellenic idea-worlds where:

  • the kings (today’s: royalties, financial elite, corporate leaders and bankers)
  • the emperors (today’s: leaders of superpowers and international nations-unions, international organizations, cartel’s and alliances)
  • the priests (today’s: pseudo-science, media, entertainment and show business)
  • the demigods (today’s: ruling elite and their celebrities and norm”gurus”)

are again telling humans and humanity what’s best for us.

We are again deceived to believe that we are unable to deal with our lives without the elite’s directions and laws. For that paradigm-shift to be fully implemented the pure and original Hellenic ingredients in human thinking has to first be ridiculed, humiliated and forgotten by humanity. Exactly what has been going on in most human institutions since world-war II.

These six points, of course, in a mobile relation to eachother and in time, is the basis for the plundering of Greece today. Therefore,  the ways to the real solutions cannot be described with clichés, in the form of new economic models or political power shifts in a system that has been hijacked by the bankers since a very long time. One have to take all these six points under serious consideration if one claims that one intends to suggest solutions for the problems. Those who seek simple solutions, shoot with blanks.

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EPILOGUE

Every people has the government it deserves, it is said.

But some people who happen to live in “key countries” in the past six decades, has mainly the governments that MI6, the CIA and Mossad prefers. The term “key countries” here, describe only some countries value and importance from the perspective of the great powers and nothing else.

Since these intelligence organizations do not use any particularly democratic methods, one can also add methods as psycho-social manipulation, false flag operations, media propaganda, political lies, political assassinations, torture, sanctions, wars and threats as frequently used tools, which very strongly dictates many countries’ political direction. For Greece the six reasons above applies for the great powers interference in Greece’s affairs, since the War of Independence against the Ottomans in 1821. These facts MUST be seriously considered if one intends to really understand what is happening now in Greece and why.

When its clear that CIA, MI6 and Mossad, through the “The Arab Spring”, with both conscious and unconscious support groups for nearly three years worked very hard to eliminate the West-critical movements in North Africa and the Middle East,… my analysis regarding the planning of the looting of Greece  should not surprise (“the Arab spring” is a working name of CIA’s infiltration and military support to the Western-loyal militias and mercenaries in the region). Such “operations” has many times before left countries in Latin America, Asia and Africa in ruins, they have substantially increased the flow of refugees in the world and they have filled the countries cities with graveyards where civilians and children, killed in millions, are buried… When the two first intelligence services during the 50’s – and 60’s primarily spent their time to make sure that Latin America were “held on the mat”, the anti-socialist “mat” ie, they exported the “model” for takeovers of sovereign nations, and thereby they started the general rehearsals for the globalization project.

The three general rehearsals for CIA’s and MI6’s (until Mossad would grow out of its diapers) “overthrow-them-we-don’t-like-and-take-over-their-resources-opera” was Iran in 1953, Greece in 1967 and Indonesia 1968. Pinochetts Chile in 1973, the fall of the Berlin Wall in 1989 and the fall of the Soviet Union in 1993 laid the foundation for the neo-liberal, aggressive capitalist model (Milton Friedman model that all globalists celebrates although it has been proved to never work without dictatorial methods) which is now presented as the only solution to ALL our problems. (see this documentary on the subject neo-liberalism and anti-democratization: Catastroika – privatization goes public)

“The carpet was laid out” for the superpowers complete re-entry into Greek business in 1967, when the country was put in “quarantine” by the dictatorship. Then democracy was ground down by the CIA’s military junta in Greece and then, the fear for the horror and the violence of the civil war, spread again  in the Greek society.

What the CIA agent Kermit Roosevelt’s overthrow of the democratically elected socialist leader, Mohammad Mossadegh, resulted in, in Iran, is well known to those who have a basic knowledge about the world political events after the war, but what the Washington-backed military junta in Greece actually “paved the way” for, is not at all as well known, because everyone wanted to see Greece as a restored European, democratic country, after the the fall of the junta. They wanted to give the impression that the Greek society left its dark period behind it and that it could now begin the reconstruction. Whose reconstruction, there is no need to ask ourselves in retrospect? This regardless of whether it took two political-murders, Gregoris Lambrakis, May 27, 1963 and Alekos Panagoulis May 1, 1976, carried out by the Greek intelligence, the royalist, right-wing candidate, Konstantinos Karamanlis, could be presented as the only capable candidate. Andreas Papandreou ”was prepared” subsequently as the left movements hope very quickly, because they knew that the Left, which of course was those who had opposed the junta, also had the majority of the Greek people with them and would therefore not settle for a right-wing leader for too long. Karamanlis, as an already known politician would just be a necessary solution from dictatorship to “democracy”, the world leaders assured  the Greeks. Thus after the fall of the right-junta a right-politician was placed as leader of the country, regardless whether the fight against the junta and the students’ revolt had been a pure left-democratic popular struggle. The natural leader of Greece after the junta, of course, would otherwise have come from the democratic resistance struggle’s ranks. Unfortunately, this development was strangled by political assassinations and the surgical procedure by the CIA and MI6, in Greek politics, which placed both New Democracy and PASOK on top of the Greek political scene and the Greek public life ever since. In Iran they had appointed one royal family and in Greece two “royal families” in the form of political leaders of the two largest parties.

If the Shah’s regime, could mean the sale of Iranian oil, and because of this, an enticed increasing Islamist opposition to the West, with the ayatollahs revolution as the culmination, (direct result of the U.S. / UK-led coup in 1953),… why could not the military junta in Greece be seen as the final “lid on”, for all real democratic forces in Greece? In Iran they wanted a “king” / Shah to negotiate with, and in Greece, they appointed a few tested and loyal political families, along with some ship owners and some big businessmen who became “kings” in Greece, with their “courts”. These have worked exclusively for American, English and German interests since the 70s and they have been well-rewarded by the great powers. After the junta had  deported the German King Constantine and his Danish wife, Anna-Maria from Greece, something that people did not mind at all, the superpowers understood that they could not suggest a king as head of state after the fall of the junta. Instead they supported a handful of “their own” politicians and businessmen, in 1974 in Athens, with the same result in mind as the support of the Shah in 1953 in Tehran and the support for Suharto in 1968 in Indonesia had given them. The control of the country’s resources and the control of its political and military forces.

These decisive “intervention” in other country’s’ affairs were thus general rehearsals for the globalists plan for a takeover of military-strategically important but sovereign nation-states and their natural resources. Everything was excused of course by the existence of the Soviet Union and that their agenda was “much worse”. The new economic, colonial wars was “a necessary evil” we were told, to keep communism away from the “free world”. You know, the “free world”, which needs to order the assassinations and the overthrow of democratically elected leaders in favor of dictators and that needs to suck out all the natural resources of the country, so that its citizens have to escape poverty, war and oppression. The “free world” where a handful of filthy rich, powerful and wrinkled parasites, can not sleep well if people are free, independent and creative.

MI6, CIA and Mossad are not intelligence services of countries, they are these wrinkled parasites private “bodyguards” and “hit-men”… The end of their monopoly is near and the beginning of justice, freedom and the development of man is here, if we only dare to shine into their dark corners with HUMAN wisdom, decency, dignity and love.

Kosmas Loumakis

 

(the article in Swedish)

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*Zionism is usually considered to be Theodor Hertzl’s organized movement for a country for the Jewish people, the Jewish state of Israel… In his article though when I refer to Zionism I describe Rothschilds version, which is much more about the cultural “hijacking” of the Jewish religion and traditions in order to serve an oligarchic global family empire, with the current state of Israel as the vehicle to this aim… The Rothschilds, the Rockefellers and the Morgans for instance are not originally Jewish, but Khazars. There are Christian Zionists and Muslim Zionists no matter how strange that can sound, simply because today’s Rothschild-Zionism has nothing to do with the Jewish culture but only with the aims of those families that  consider themselves as “kings” of humanity and their plans with he state of Israel.

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