Who actually owes who?
First published by Kosmas Loumakis (athenianvoice) on facebook on Tuesday, September 27, 2011
Throughout the debate on the Greek debt, an important dimension is missing. People ought to become familiar with HOW the “Greek debt “ actually occurred, before they decide to have opinions on the subject. Since the people of Europe today can see that their Governments in the most brutal manner, requires that Greece shall cut off its “right arm” and its “right foot” in order to, at any price pay the debt, they should in all fairness be aware of who actually owes who, in the first place! You should know that those, who today presents themselves as righteous lenders who just want their money back, actually owe large sums themselves to the very people they are lending money to. And from the same period of time, where the Greek loan has its roots. The same banks which demand money from Greece today, want to see their own debts to Greece as done and dusted and they avoid like the plague to talk about them. If we check out the truth about the Greek debt, we can see that the loans that Greece took in 1913 and 1930, actually was written off after WWII, due to the massive destruction of the Greek society and the holocaust of nearly 1 million Greeks. Lo and behold, these loans suddenly showed up again in 1961. Today they still pay the interest on loans, that was removed in 1945. Much of the current debt has occurred in a similar way and therefore the Greeks today cry out loud, that they want a revision of the debt and they want an official “specification” before they can approve the final sum.
The most incredible story on this subject however, is the following: When the Greek Bank, Banque d’ Orient, was incorporated in the Greek National Bank in 1932, the Greeks from old Greece (from Odessa in the North to Alexandria in the South) had deposit 562 tons of gold in French gold francs in that bank, for shares that CANNOT be paid back in cash, but must be paid back in gold. When the merge happened, this gold was never paid back to its rightful owners, instead the Rothschild family, who owned part of the National Bank of Greece took the gold to their banks and the owners of the gold, kept the paper shares in their hands. Final clearance, of assets and payment to the owners, never happened… The Greek National Bank, claims that the settlement was made, but this must be published in the Governments PM (FEK), which it never was. The National Bank has not been able to produce a single document which confirms any clearance even if the shareholders, with their lawyers and now the journalist Makis Triantafilopoulos, have requested such documents for almost 9 months. Nothing has ever been announced anywhere from 1932, actually it is the other way around, the validity and the value of these shares has been confirmed via correspondence between shareholders and several major international banks from 1936, 1942, 1947, 1957, 1968, 1983, and most recently in 2000.
Now comes the grossest and the most sickening thing about this whole story! … When Greece, after the Balkan wars, WWI and the genocide in Smyrna in 1922 (where a million Greeks were slaughtered by the Turkish army in 14 days and nearly 2 million forced to flee back to Greece), was forced to take large loans from the banks of the super powers, these banks borrowed out the GREEKS OWN MONEY back to them in small portions and since then they charge interest and service charges. With the Greeks’ gold in their vaults, they could lend money to the Greeks with high interest rates. Now shares has turned up which confirms that there are Greek families, who have the right to reclaim their gold, according to the shares they have in their possession! We are talking about monster sums here. One such share is currently valued at 648 billion euro!!! It has namely been submitted to the Greek Ministry of Finance by a Greek family, in order to pay the whole of the Greek public debt. As you understand, this is a NUCLEAR BOMB in the banking world that has been activated now. Everyone understands that there is no money in the whole banking system to pay out this money, but the gold should nevertheless be somewhere!.. The family that has offered to give a share to the Greek Finance Ministry has 40 such shares. There is no indication anywhere which shows that the clearance has been completed after the merge, and therefore the shares are still valid and therefore, shareholders are still entitled to their gold. After 1932, it has been confirmed on several occasions that these shares are valid and worth their money in gold. Latest, the year 2000, a Swiss bank suggested to an owner of such shares, that they were interested in purchasing these shares from the owners for a total of 1.3 billion euro’s, and the owners refused, because they sensed that the shares were worth much, much more! Do you know of any bank that would make such an offer, if there were a microscopic chance that the shares are worthless?
If the banking world (the same institutions who “took care of” the Greek gold) want the Greeks to pay their debt, which in several cases are from the beginning of last century, shouldn´t also the Greeks get their gold back? They should also get their compensation from Germany since they, as the only country, did not get it after WWII. Germany should also have to pay back the loans, they forced Greece to give them during the occupation 1941-44. According to the “loan agreement”, this would be paid back in full as soon as Germany “stood on its own feet” again. If one doesn’t look at these facts first, one cannot in seriousness argue that the Greeks owe anything to anyone! Now, of course the Greeks does not claim that that they do not owe anything, on the contrary, they show great patience and a willingness to sort out this mess. However, all in Greece (except the government and the financial elite) are interested in that this economic crusade, should apply equally to all parties. In other words, the Greeks cannot accept that they owe these sums, when the borrowers debts to Greece are overlooked.
This story is currently toned down by the Greek media, but the fact remains: The matter will be addressed in court and there are both French and American banks, which confirmed the genuineness of the shares! A Greek journalist that can be seen as the Greek Jan Guillou (Swedish investigating top journalist), have been in contact with its shareholders for over 9 months and many hot potatoes for the current global economic system, are going to be thrown into this issue! Respected economists and lawyers from both U.S. and England, have confirmed that the shares are “healthy” and therefore valid. The whole of the Greek media are trying to downplay this news, especially the Greek National Bank… Only zougla.gr, who first dropped the bomb, continues to write on the subject! I link here what has been written so far, but you may seek to translate the articles yourself. I do not have the time, unfortunately, at least not right now. When there will be talks of lawsuits and the like, I will update you all with what happens in this issue. When this bomb is released in the European media, it will put fire to the foundations of the modern European culture and it will finally become clear on what criminal grounds, its current super powers really stand. I say, there should be time now for a closed and an equitable adjustment, of all these post-colonial shady nooks and crannies. The countries that today shout the loudest about more equal moral obligations, are in fact precisely those who absolutely couldn’t care less about their own moral obligations. They also want us to put a lid on these issues. Unfortunately we cannot do that unless all the robbed people, get back their wealth and adequate compensation for their suffering. Everyone understands that this is not going to happen and then the big question is: Why should Greece then, complete their payments?
“H σιωπή είναι χρυσός” http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=383920&cid=4
“Άνοιξε ο διάλογος για την μετοχή” http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=384123&cid=6
“Η εκκαθάριση το κλειδί για τη μετοχή” http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=384710&cid=4
“Ποιός έκανε ταμείο με τη μετοχή” http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=385496&cid=6
“Tα ψεύτικα τα λόγια τα μεγάλα” http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=386788&cid=4
“Οι δανειστές μας κρύβουν τη μετοχή” http://www.zougla.gr/page.ashx?pid=2&aid=386585&cid=4